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THE REWATCHABLES · August 16, 2021

Argo

A 2012 thriller / drama directed by Ben Affleck, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ThrillerDrama2010sDirected by Ben Affleck

ON THIS EPISODE

Overall episode#216Source sheet order
Movie year20122010s
Tomatometer96%Critics’ score
Metacritic86View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
DirectorBen AffleckThriller / Drama

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts frame Argo as a tightly made, highly rewatchable old-school Hollywood thriller that benefited from Oscar controversy and from Ben Affleck’s comeback arc. They praise its pace, suspense, casting, and 1970s paranoia vibe, while criticizing its multiple endings and historical distortions, especially around Canada’s role.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01It moves fast and opens directly on the embassy crisis instead of spending time on backstory. About 16 min
  2. 02It blends three strong ensembles: Washington, Hollywood, and Tehran. About 16 min
  3. 03The casting of John Goodman and Alan Arkin provides a perfect comic Hollywood counterweight. About 16 min
  4. 04The airport sequence and celebration montage deliver sustained suspense and payoff. About 32 min
  5. 05Its 1970s political-thriller feel makes it play like an older prestige suspense film. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe film has too many endings and keeps going after the main payoff. About 16 min
  2. majorIt takes major liberties with history, especially by overstating the CIA and minimizing Canada’s role. About 48 min
  3. moderateThe Iranian characters are written in a simplistic, one-note way. About 48 min
  4. minorSome music and date details are off by a year. About 40 min · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Storming of the U.S. Embassy

The opening crisis sequence establishes chaos, urgency, and character dynamics immediately.

About 16 min
Favorite

Mendez shoots down rescue ideas in Washington

A brisk, funny planning scene that shows Mendez’s competence and dry attitude.

About 16 min
Favorite

Goodman and Arkin meet the Hollywood cover plan

The film shifts into comedy and Hollywood satire as the fake-production scheme takes shape.

About 16 min
Favorite

Arkin buys the script from Richard Kind

A sharp, comic transaction that embodies the movie-business satire.

About 16 min
Favorite

Airport ticket delay and document checks

A nerve-racking late stretch where bureaucracy almost ruins the escape.

About 32 min
Favorite

Celebration montage after takeoff

Multiple characters across different locations react with relief and release after the escape works.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Does Argo’s Oscar win help or hurt its rewatchability?

Bill Simmons

Winning best picture may have dimmed the movie by overexposing it during awards season.

Chris Ryan

It still plays as a compulsively rewatchable movie despite awards saturation.

They partly agreed About 40 min

How much does historical accuracy matter in Argo?

Bill Simmons

Historical liberties are acceptable as long as the story works.

Chris Ryan

The film clearly takes liberties and those criticisms are fair.

They agreed About 24 min

Would George Clooney have been a better Tony Mendez?

Bill Simmons

No; Clooney is too much himself and less believable as an overlooked operative.

Chris Ryan

No; Affleck’s muted performance fits the role better.

They agreed About 16 min

Should the movie have ended earlier?

Chris Ryan

Yes; the film has too many endings after the plane takes off.

Bill Simmons

Yes; the final domestic wrap-up scenes are unnecessary.

15 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableBen AffleckBill Simmons: Praised as a real filmmaker whose comeback crystallized with Argo; his performance and directing are both admired. Opening minutes mixedGeorge ClooneyBill Simmons: Seen as a plausible but less fitting Tony Mendez than Affleck, and as a weaker director overall. About 24 min very favorableAlan ArkinBill Simmons: Celebrated for his sharply funny Hollywood-executive performance. About 16 min very favorableJohn GoodmanBill Simmons: Praised as the ideal comic counterpart to Arkin and a perfect casting choice. About 16 min very favorableBryan CranstonBill Simmons: Highlighted as a forceful presence in the CIA scenes and an overacting standout. About 56 min
favorableScoot McNairyChris Ryan: Praised as crucial to the suspense and as a favorite supporting actor who almost feels lead-worthy. About 48 min
neutralTate DonovanChris Ryan: Referenced as part of the Canadian-six ensemble and as a recognizable supporting performer. About 16 min · medium confidence
neutralClea DuvallChris Ryan: Mentioned as one of the six in Tehran, part of the ensemble texture. About 16 min · medium confidence
neutralTitus WelliverChris Ryan: Cited as one of the strong government-side supporting players. About 16 min · medium confidenceneutralKyle ChandlerChris Ryan: Mentioned as part of the Washington ensemble, admired as a solid supporting presence. About 16 min · medium confidenceneutralPhilip Seymour HoffmanBill Simmons: Used as a benchmark in the loaded 2012 supporting-actor race. About 16 min · medium confidenceneutralWarren BeattyBill Simmons: Referenced as a comparison point for the kind of filmmaker Affleck became. Opening minutes mixedJimmy CarterBill Simmons: Discussed as the president tied to the hostage crisis and its rescue efforts. About 16 min favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Mentioned approvingly because he named Argo his best film of the year. About 40 min neutralJudd NelsonBill Simmons: Referenced only as an award-category comparison for a scene-stealing character. About 56 min · medium confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Argo as a comeback movie

Argues the film completes Affleck’s return to legitimacy as a filmmaker after a rough mid-2000s stretch.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Argo as a 70s-style political thriller

Sees it as a modern throwback to paranoid, distrustful 70s movies with strong craft DNA.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The movie’s opening structure

Admires how the film gets to the embassy crisis immediately and avoids unnecessary setup.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Airport sequence and final stretch

Calls the airport-to-escape stretch the movie’s best sustained section.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

John Goodman and Alan Arkin partnership

Treats their Hollywood scenes as the film’s best comic and casting payoff.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Scoot McNairy

Thinks McNairy is excellent and possibly underused as a bigger lead actor.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Historical accuracy vs. storytelling

Accepts that the film bends facts for drama, but acknowledges the criticisms as fair.

About 40 min
Chris RyanDid not like it

The multiple endings

Feels the film should have ended sooner, especially after the flight and celebration montage.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Ben Affleck’s restrained performance

Likes that Affleck downplays his movie-star image and plays Mendez as tired and overlooked.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Opening credits and setup

Praises the opening credits and early sequence for efficiently establishing the crisis.

About 16 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Hollywood as problem-solver

The movie turns the film industry into a savior machine, with fake movie production serving as the escape plan.

About 8 min

1970s paranoia and distrust

They connect Argo to a broader cycle of 70s political thrillers shaped by distrust of government and institutions.

About 8 min

Affleck comeback and self-reinvention

The film represents Affleck’s transformation into a serious filmmaker after his mid-2000s struggles.

Opening minutes

Historical memory of the Iran hostage crisis

Bill personalizes the story by recalling the hostage crisis as a defining childhood event.

About 24 min

Craft over star vanity

Affleck downplays his own movie-star image and lets supporting players dominate key scenes.

About 8 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film was nominated for seven Oscars and won Best Picture, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Film Editing.

About 16 min

Production note

It was the first Best Picture winner in 23 years not nominated for Best Director.

About 16 min

Production note

The original project was developed from a 2007 Wired article by Joshua Bierman.

About 24 min

Production note

Chris Terrio’s screenplay circulated on the Black List before Affleck took over.

About 24 min

Production note

Led Zeppelin required the placement of 'When the Levee Breaks' to match the actual record order.

About 32 min

Production note

The movie was a big box-office hit, making over $232 million worldwide on a $44.5 million budget.

About 16 min

Production note

Tony Mendez was actually around 5'7", making Affleck’s height part of the casting controversy.

About 1:04

Production note

Studio 6 reportedly received 26 scripts after folding, including one from Steven Spielberg.

About 1:04 · medium confidence

The Town

Used as a benchmark for Affleck’s directing comeback and prior Rewatchables coverage.

Opening minutes

Gone Baby Gone

Cited as Affleck’s first strong directing effort.

Opening minutes

Gone Girl

Referenced as a later Affleck-directed project with Fincher.

Opening minutes

Ocean's Eleven

Used as a comparison for Argo’s fun, crowd-pleasing rewatchability.

Opening minutes

The Master

Serves as a contrast for serious critical discussion versus easy rewatching.

Opening minutes

Spotlight

Compared as another awards movie that became a bigger Rewatchables topic.

Opening minutes

Parallax View

Referenced as a 1970s paranoia touchstone.

About 8 min

Three Days of the Condor

Used as a key example of the political-thriller lineage Argo echoes.

About 8 min

Killing of a Chinese Bookie

Mentioned as a visual reference for the LA material.

About 8 min

Silkwood

Cited as part of the 70s/early 80s newsy thriller ecosystem.

About 32 min · medium confidence

Zero Dark Thirty

Used as a contrast case for historical storytelling and documentary-like claims.

About 40 min

Amour

Listed in the 2012 Best Picture lineup.

About 16 min

Lincoln

Listed as part of the heavily debated 2012 awards race.

About 16 min

Silver Linings Playbook

Listed as another major Best Picture contender from 2012.

About 16 min

JFK

Referenced as the ultimate example of a loose 'based on a true story' movie.

About 40 min · medium confidence
9 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Rewatchables category banter

The hosts riff through standard category bits with jokes about overacting, Dion Waiters, and recasting.

About 56 min

Affleck hair jokes

Bill repeatedly mocks Affleck’s 1970s hair, treating it like a major visual gag.

About 56 min

WGA / Hollywood inside-baseball jokes

They keep joking that Hollywood and the WGA are part of the movie’s comedic world.

About 16 min

Celebration montage talk

They enjoy the many different styles of relief and celebration after the escape.

About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“I get people out.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“This is what I do.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“You're an associate producer at best.”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“You're this goddamn close.”
About 56 min

Chris Ryan

“They let it happen!”
About 8 min · medium confidence

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Argo is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Argo, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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