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THE REWATCHABLES · February 4, 2019

The Warriors

A 1979 action / mystery directed by Walter Hill, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionMystery1970sDirected by Walter Hill
Overall episode#58Source sheet order
Movie year19791970s
Tomatometer88%Critics’ score
Metacritic65View score
Roger Ebert2/4Original star rating
DirectorWalter HillAction / Mystery

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A largely celebratory discussion of The Warriors as a highly influential, stylized late-70s action/gang movie with iconic world-building, memorable villains, and several all-time scenes, while also noting some dated elements, logic gaps, and rough stunt/plot mechanics.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Cyrus's speech and charisma are treated as one of the movie's signature sequences. About 8 min
  2. 02The baseball furies fight is a standout set piece, especially the reveal and chase through Central Park. About 24 min
  3. 03The film's world-building and gang mythology make it endlessly rewatchable and influential. About 40 min
  4. 04Walter Hill's stylized visual approach and nighttime New York look give the movie a lasting visual appeal. Opening minutes
  5. 05The final Coney Island return and 'you guys are good' ending lands as an iconic payoff. About 32 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateSome fight choreography looks slow, obvious, or physically implausible by modern standards. Opening minutes
  2. minorThe plot's geography and timing do not always make practical sense. About 8 min
  3. moderateThe baseball furies lose too easily and behave implausibly for their gimmick. About 24 min
  4. moderateSome language and behavior, especially Ajax's conduct, plays badly now. About 56 min
  5. minorThe ending music choice feels mismatched to the movie's urban gang setting. About 48 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Cyrus's speech at the summit

The gang summit speech is held up as the film's signature scene and the most quoted moment.

About 8 min
Favorite

Cyrus's assassination and the rooftop fall

The sudden killing of Cyrus and his falling stunt are discussed as a shocking pivot.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Baseball Furies chase/fight

The Central Park confrontation with the Baseball Furies is discussed as a highlight, even while mocked.

About 24 min
positive

Bathroom fight with the punks

A long-filmed stunts sequence that the hosts remember as a notable action beat.

About 32 min · medium confidence
Favorite

Warriors come out to play standoff

Luther's taunting line and bottle routine are treated as a classic villain moment.

About 32 min
Favorite

Final Coney Island showdown

The endgame with the Riffs materializing and acknowledging the Warriors is praised as a strong payoff.

About 32 min
mixed

Cleon's death

Cleon's early death is seen as dramatic but also as a casualty of production reshaping.

About 48 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Is The Warriors really an action movie?

Bill Simmons

Yes, it is one of the greatest action movies, though very stylized.

Sean Fennessey

It's closer to a gang movie or comic-book-style thriller than a standard action movie.

Shea Serrano

It feels less like a modern action movie and more like something you need childhood nostalgia for.

No final agreement About 24 min

Does the baseball furies fight hold up?

Shea Serrano

No, the choreography looks bad and the fighters seem weak.

Bill Simmons

It is one of the movie's best scenes despite its implausibility.

Sean Fennessey

He likes the scene but also questions how the gang loses so badly.

They partly agreed About 48 min

Does Ajax's behavior age badly?

Bill Simmons

Yes, the language and assaultive behavior are a problem now.

Sean Fennessey

He is a bad person, but that fits the movie's criminal-gang world.

Shea Serrano

Some of the dialogue is hard to hear now and should be softened.

They left it as a friendly argument About 1:04

Who won the movie?

Bill Simmons

Walter Hill won by inventing a template for later action movies.

Sean Fennessey

Cyrus or Luther each could be said to have won in different ways.

Shea Serrano

Swan is the likable lead, but not necessarily the winner of the movie.

10 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableWalter HillBill Simmons: Praised for creating a bold, highly influential visual and action template. About 8 min
very favorableCyrusBill Simmons: Described as an iconic, persuasive, and still-effective character/speechmaker. About 8 min
favorableRoger HillBill Simmons: Credited with delivering an all-time memorable performance as Cyrus. About 8 min
neutralMichael BeckBill Simmons: Mentioned as the actor playing Swan and as having discussed the shoot in a making-of feature. About 24 min
favorableDavid Patrick KellyBill Simmons: Praised for ad-libbing 'Warriors, come out to play' as Luther. About 24 min
favorableJames RemarBill Simmons: Admired as a tough, memorable presence as Ajax. About 24 min favorableMercedes RuehlBill Simmons: Mentioned as a later Oscar-nominated actor who appears very young in the film. About 48 min · medium confidenceneutralTony DanzaBill Simmons: Cited as having been considered for Vermin before taking Taxi instead. About 56 min · medium confidencefavorableJoel SilverBill Simmons: Named as part of the producer circle that helped shape later action movies. About 16 min · medium confidence
very favorableLawrence GordonBill Simmons: Praised as a key producer behind influential action films and part of The Warriors' lineage. About 16 min
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Warriors

Calls it one of the greatest action movies ever and a top-tier rewatchable.

Opening minutes
Shea SerranoMixed

The Warriors

Likes the movie but says it is not great and works best if watched in childhood.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

The Warriors

Frames it as a highly influential, stylized prototype rather than a simple action movie.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cyrus's speech

Treats Cyrus's speech as one of the movie's all-time great scenes and the core of its appeal.

About 8 min
Shea SerranoDid not like it

Baseball Furies fight

Finds the fight goofy and poorly choreographed by modern standards.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Action-movie evolution

Argues the film helped usher in a new era of stylized action and world building.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Walter Hill

Praises Hill as a fascinating, up-and-down director who made many influential genre films.

About 16 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Final 'you guys are good' ending

Sees the ending as an iconic payoff comparable to other big action-movie tag moments.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cyrus

Argues Cyrus still works after 40 years because charisma overrides obvious logical flaws.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Luther

Enjoys Luther as a crazy, over-the-top villain and heat-check performer.

About 48 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Stylized mythmaking

The film is discussed as comic-book-like, theatrical, and more mythic than realistic.

Opening minutes

New York as character

The city, especially 1970s New York and the subway system, is treated as a defining element of the movie's identity.

About 8 min

Influence on later action movies

The movie is presented as a prototype for modern action-world building and stylized masculine action cinema.

About 8 min

Charismatic leadership and populism

Cyrus is read as a charismatic, persuasive leader whose logic is compelling even if flawed.

About 8 min

Gang identity and costume

The gangs' names, outfits, and visual gimmicks are a major part of the fun and mythology.

About 24 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie is based on Sol Yurick's 1965 novel.

About 8 min

Production note

The film opened in roughly 670 theaters and later became notorious for theater disturbances and violence.

Opening minutes

Production note

Roger Hill reportedly got genuine cheers from the extras during Cyrus's speech.

About 8 min

Production note

Thomas Waits's character Fox was reportedly written out after a feud, with a stunt double replacing him.

About 1:04

Production note

The film was shot partly at Hoyt-Schermerhorn and other New York subway locations.

About 8 min

Production note

They say the production had to pay off gangs for certain filming locations in the five boroughs.

About 56 min

Production note

The wall-to-wall rain-soaked street look was an intentional cinematography choice.

About 1:12

Production note

In the book, none of the characters were white, and the film was altered for commercial reasons.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Production note

Tony Danza was originally considered for Vermin but ended up doing Taxi.

About 56 min

Production note

Mercy's jacket was used to hide an injury after she hurt her wrist during filming.

About 1:04

Mad Max

Used as a comparison for similarly rough, transitional late-70s action filmmaking.

Opening minutes

Escape from New York

Cited as another action-thriller that feels similarly transitional.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

West Side Story

Bill compares the movie's gang structure to a musical without the songs.

Opening minutes

48 Hours

Discussed as another Walter Hill film with a major crowd reaction and similar action energy.

Opening minutes

Dirty Harry

Referenced as representative of earlier 70s action movies.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

Enter the Dragon

Cited as another major action reference point from the era.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

John Wick

Used as the modern benchmark for clean fight choreography and networked world-building.

Opening minutes

Scarface

Used as an example of a cult film that gained stature through cable/VHS.

About 40 min

Revenge of the Nerds

Sean compares the final arrival of the Riffs to a crowd-reinforcement scene in this movie.

About 32 min · medium confidence

Predator

Referenced for its iconic macho victory framing.

About 32 min · medium confidence

The Graduate

Used to describe the anticlimactic feeling of returning home after the long night.

About 40 min

Die Hard

Mentioned as part of Lawrence Gordon's later action-movie production legacy.

About 16 min

Point Break

Mentioned as another Lawrence Gordon-produced action classic.

About 16 min

The Rock

Referenced as a later wrestler/performer whose charisma resembles Cyrus.

About 16 min

Crip / Bloods

Used in a personal anecdote about pretending to be in a gang as kids.

About 56 min · medium confidence
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Gang-name breakdown

The hosts keep returning to the absurdity and coolness of the various gang names and costumes.

About 24 min

Baseball Furies skepticism

A recurring joke is that the Baseball Furies are all gimmick and no substance.

About 24 min

Cyrus as political/charismatic prototype

Cyrus is repeatedly linked to modern charisma, especially The Rock and populist politics.

About 8 min

New York logistics nitpicking

The hosts keep teasing out subway routes, station geography, and the plausibility of the overnight trek.

About 8 min

Heat-check awards

They hand out playful awards like Dion Waiters and Saul Rubinek for standout over-the-top performances.

About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Can you count suckers?”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“Can you dig it?”
About 8 min

Speaker not identified

“Warriors come out to play”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“I'll shove that bat up your ass”
About 56 min

Bill Simmons

“The Warriors are good, real good.”
About 32 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where The Warriors is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before The Warriors, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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