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THE REWATCHABLES · August 3, 2026

The Karate Kid Part II

A 1986 martial arts / drama / action / family movie directed by John G. Avildsen—and decision no. 120 in the Hanks–Cruise tape.

Martial ArtsDramaActionFamily1980sDirected by John G. Avildsen
The Karate Kid Part II1986MOVIE
Podcast episode#463No. 474 overall
Movie year19861980s release
Tomatometer49%No. 104 of 128 tracked
Metacritic55View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
State of the raceCruise led by 356–59 · 5 ties

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts argue that The Karate Kid Part II is better and smarter than its reputation, praising it as a well-made, surprisingly emotional Miyagi-focused sequel that extends the first film cleanly. They also repeatedly joke about the oddity of Daniel and Miyagi's relationship, the villainy of Sato and Chosen, and the movie's 1980s earnestness.
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Bill SimmonsKyle Brandt

WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01It picks up seamlessly from the first film and feels like a true continuation. Opening minutes
  2. 02Miyagi is the movie's center of gravity, with strong scenes and emotional depth. Opening minutes
  3. 03The Okinawa setting and castle finale make the movie visually memorable. About 8 min
  4. 04The film's earnest 1980s romance and music are hugely rewatchable. About 48 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateDaniel is portrayed as annoying, passive, and strangely dependent on Miyagi. About 8 min
  2. moderateThe Daniel-Miyagi relationship feels uncomfortable and implausible at times. About 8 min
  3. moderateThe final fight choreography looks awkward and possibly compromised. About 40 min · medium confidence
  4. majorKimiko gets hit brutally, which is unsettling by modern standards. About 32 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening recap of Karate Kid 1 and immediate continuation

The film opens by replaying the end of the first movie and quickly reconnecting the story and look.

Opening minutes
mixed

Daniel begging to join Miyagi in Okinawa

The hosts laugh at how intensely Daniel wants to accompany Miyagi and what that says about their relationship.

About 8 min
positive

Father's death / Miyagi reconciliation

They praise the emotional scene where Miyagi tears up after his father's death.

About 32 min
Favorite

Ice-breaking challenge

They enjoy the bar scene where Daniel breaks the ice block and Sato's side bets pay off.

About 32 min
Favorite

Hurricane/typhoon village disaster

They like the storm sequence and Miyagi's rescue work, especially the wood-chop moment.

About 32 min
Favorite

Castle dance / final duel

They think the castle duel is visually cool and one of the movie's best set pieces.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed About 24 min

Was Sato in the right?

Bill Simmons

He argues Sato had a legitimate grievance because Miyagi broke an arranged-marriage custom and fled instead of fighting.

Kyle Brandt

He agrees Sato was justified in being furious and sees Miyagi as the one who dodged accountability.

They partly agreed About 40 min

How credible is the final fight choreography?

Bill Simmons

He thinks the close-ups and two-hand punching look awkward and possibly cover an injury.

Kyle Brandt

He thinks the fight is compromised and maybe Machio got hurt during filming.

They agreed About 8 min

Does Daniel actually deserve the 'karate kid' label?

Bill Simmons

He thinks Daniel is basically a trouble-magnet who makes bad choices.

Kyle Brandt

He says Daniel is often annoying and not as heroic as the franchise suggests.

14 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorablePat MoritaBill Simmons: Praised as a national treasure and the movie's star presence. Opening minutes mixedRalph MacchioBill Simmons: Seen as annoying in this movie but still central to the franchise. About 8 min
favorableDanny KamekonaKyle Brandt: Praised as a menacing, effective Sato. About 16 min
favorableYuji OkumotoKyle Brandt: Praised for playing Chosen as a ripped, intimidating antagonist. About 16 min
favorableTamlyn TomitaBill Simmons: Praised as beautiful and good in the role of Kimiko. About 16 min
neutralNobu McCarthyBill Simmons: Mentioned as a returning Rewatchables guest from another episode. About 16 min · medium confidence
mixedWilliam ZabkaKyle Brandt: Discussed as part of the Cobra Kai cast and as a strong KK1 antagonist, but largely absent here. About 24 min favorableJerry WeintraubBill Simmons: Cited as a reassuring production credit that signals quality. About 48 min very favorableBill ContiKyle Brandt: His score is praised as one of the movie's best assets. About 48 min
very favorablePeter CeteraKyle Brandt: Celebrated for writing and performing 'Glory of Love.' About 48 min
neutralSteven SpielbergBill Simmons: Only mentioned indirectly through a joke about the show set being 'Brian Singer-y'; no substantive evaluation. About 8 min · low confidencefavorableTom CruiseKyle Brandt: Used as a possible alternate casting reference for an 80s-era star with similar energy. About 56 min · medium confidenceneutralTroy AikmanKyle Brandt: Offered as a playful in-universe explanation for Ali breaking up with Daniel. About 48 min
favorableClarence GilyardKyle Brandt: Praised for a small role as the ice-bar MC and for his broader 1980s screen presence. About 40 min
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The Karate Kid Part II

He enters expecting a setup for Karate Kid 3 but ends up concluding KK2 is genuinely good.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLoved it

The Karate Kid Part II

He calls it really fun and says it works effortlessly as a sequel.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Pat Morita / Mr. Miyagi

He argues the movie is really a Miyagi vehicle and Morita is excellent in it.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtDid not like it

Daniel LaRusso

He thinks Daniel is annoying, needy, and too passive in Okinawa.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Airport departure and flight to Okinawa

He jokes that the seat arrangement and travel behavior prove how odd the Daniel-Miyagi bond is.

About 8 min
Kyle BrandtLiked it

Karate Kid trilogy

He argues KK2 and KK3 should be swapped chronologically for story reasons.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Sato

He likes Sato's energy and finds his role as a villain compelling.

About 16 min
Kyle BrandtLiked it

Sato

He admires Sato as a dark, menacing villain with a great heel turn.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Typhoon/hurricane sequence

He enjoys the storm sequence as a big, absurd, but exciting set piece.

About 32 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Music / song placement

He says the score and 'Glory of Love' help define the movie's legacy.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Final castle fight

He sees the last fight as the movie's best pure spectacle moment.

About 40 min
Kyle BrandtLiked it

Tom Cruise

He suggests Cruise could have played a comparable 1980s role, if not the Japanese part itself.

About 56 min · medium confidence
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Honor versus forgiveness

The episode keeps returning to Miyagi and Sato's unresolved honor conflict and whether Sato was justified.

About 24 min

Miyagi as the true hero

The hosts argue the sequel is really Miyagi's story, not Daniel's.

Opening minutes

1980s earnestness

They frame the movie as a very sincere, unselfconscious 1980s studio sequel.

About 24 min

Villains who turn quickly

Sato begins as a near-cartoon villain and then flips to a helpful ally by the end.

About 32 min

The trilogy's weird mentor-student dynamic

They see the relationship between Daniel and Miyagi as central, funny, and increasingly strange across the series.

About 8 min
18 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The hosts say the sequel went into production 10 days after Karate Kid 1 came out.

Opening minutes

Production note

The movie was released in 1986 and made $130 million on a $12 million budget.

About 24 min

Production note

The film's setting in Okinawa was actually shot in Hawaii.

About 48 min

Production note

They claim the airplane and airport sequence includes empty seats that make the pair's travel look even stranger.

About 8 min

Production note

The 'Glory of Love' song was Oscar-nominated but lost to 'Take My Breath Away.'

About 48 min

Production note

They note a Karate Kid Part II video game included bonus rounds for ice-breaking and chopstick-catching.

About 40 min

Production note

They say Roger Ebert praised the deeper Miyagi material and Okinawa setting in a TV review.

About 24 min · medium confidence

Production note

Kyle claims the final 'honk' sound is ADR and doesn't match Macchio's lip movement.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Rocky II

Used as a comparison for how a sequel can open by reusing the previous film's climax.

Opening minutes

Rocky V

Mentioned as another sequel that picks up from the previous movie's ending.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

Bloodsport

Compared to Sato/Chosen-style villainy and martial-arts copying.

Opening minutes

Back to the Future

Used to explain the 1980s trope of a teenager hanging with an eccentric older mentor.

About 8 min

Cobra Kai

Discussed as the show that reframes Daniel and the franchise's moral center.

About 8 min

Top Gun

Referenced as part of the 1986 box-office era and in relation to Clarence Gilyard.

About 24 min

The Dark Knight Rises

Used as an example of a bad death scene.

About 32 min · medium confidence

Roadhouse

Used to compare Sato to a tycoon-villain who owns the whole town.

About 40 min

The Firm

Referenced in a joke about a Wilford Brimley blackmail-style scene.

About 1:04 · medium confidence

The Odyssey

Mentioned as a recent movie Bill and Kyle saw and compared to other current work.

Opening minutes · low confidence
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Sato voice / Sato imitation

They repeatedly do impressions of Sato and joke about using the voice whenever possible.

Opening minutes

Miyagi third-person speech

They joke about Miyagi constantly referring to himself in the third person.

About 48 min

Sato's wood-chopping hobby

They keep returning to the idea that Sato just goes outside and chops the same wood block for fun.

About 40 min

Sato's businesses

They joke that Sato owns construction, real estate, and escort services, making him a village tycoon.

About 40 min

Glory of Love karaoke-style reading

They quote and riff on the song as an over-the-top romantic anthem.

About 48 min

Daniel as the problem

They repeatedly joke that Daniel is a loser or invader rather than the hero.

About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“one of them won the movie”
Opening minutes

Kyle Brandt

“I am a man who will fight for your honor”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Mr. Miyagi, you're more important than college”
About 8 min

Kyle Brandt

“this is really, really fun movie to watch”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“You tried to steal the girl”
About 24 min

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Kyle Brandt headshotKyle Brandt20 tracked appearances · 7 H / 13 C

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