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THE REWATCHABLES · September 29, 2020

The Game

A 1997 thriller / mystery directed by David Fincher, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ThrillerMystery1990sDirected by David Fincher
Overall episode#166Source sheet order
Movie year19971990s
Tomatometer77%Critics’ score
Metacritic63View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorDavid FincherThriller / Mystery

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that The Game is a highly watchable, visually precise, psychologically paranoid Fincher movie with a divisive third act that still lands emotionally. The hosts admire Michael Douglas's late-90s star persona, Sean Penn's off-kilter performance, and the movie's fairy-tale logic, while repeatedly nitpicking the plot's realism and logistics.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Fincher's meticulous visual control makes even flawed stretches compelling to watch. About 16 min
  2. 02The final 20 minutes and ending payoff are especially satisfying and easy to rewatch. About 8 min
  3. 03Sean Penn's Conrad scenes are lively, unpredictable, and full of heat. About 24 min
  4. 04The movie's twists and paranoid reveals make it rewarding after enough time has passed between viewings. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe third act becomes easier to attack on repeat viewings because some events do not logically add up. Opening minutes
  2. moderateThe first 45 minutes can feel slow if the viewer already knows the outcome. About 16 min
  3. majorThe movie's logistics require a lot of suspension of disbelief, especially the scale and cost of CRS's scheme. About 56 min
  4. minorThe Super 8 flashback motif is overused and tonally clunky. About 32 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Conrad lunch encounter

Sean Penn needles Nick with weird, aggressive, funny lines that establish the movie's unstable energy.

About 24 min
Favorite

TV voice / game initiation

The eerie television message announces the rules and kicks off the film's paranoia.

About 24 min
Favorite

CRS chase and empty-building return

The run through CRS and the return with cops to an empty building is praised as an intense set piece.

About 32 min
positive

Presidential suite reveal

The hotel-room sequence, with the key, the room-service tension, and the porn/coke reveal, is singled out as a great escalation.

About 32 min
positive

Graffiti house / 'Rabbit' reveal

The return home and glowing graffiti are praised as visually cool and memorable.

About 32 min
positive

Deborah Kara Unger chase with dogs/dumpster

The frantic chase, including the dog pursuit and dumpster jump, is treated as fun and memorable.

About 24 min
Favorite

Final sequence after the jump

The reveal at the cafeteria and the final airport escape are treated as the movie's strongest stretch.

About 24 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Is the third act broken or satisfying?

Speaker not identified

Said the final third fell apart.

Bill Simmons

Thinks the ending is satisfying and even great.

Chris Ryan

Thinks the ending works even if it is not logically airtight.

They agreed About 1:12

Would the game be a positive experience?

Bill Simmons

Would hate it and be angry afterward.

Sean Fennessey

Would hate the loss of control and the life-threatening parts.

Chris Ryan

Would not enjoy it, especially if married or emotionally exposed.

No final agreement About 1:04

Who wins the movie?

Bill Simmons

Michael Douglas wins because the movie is built around his star vehicle.

Chris Ryan

Sean Penn wins because the role is so electric and hard to cast well.

Sean Fennessey

Leans toward Douglas and Fincher as the larger winners, though not decisively.

They agreed About 16 min

Could the plot exist in the smartphone era?

Bill Simmons

No, the movie depends on a pre-search-engine world.

Sean Fennessey

Agrees it is a late-90s thriller built on obsolete communication habits.

Chris Ryan

Agrees and notes Yellow Pages, phone traces, and bank verification would kill the plot now.

13 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableDavid FincherBill Simmons: Praised for precision, visual control, and making every movie hard to turn off, even when flawed. Opening minutes favorableMichael DouglasBill Simmons: Admired as a late-90s star whose persona fits the role of a wealthy, unraveling, not-quite-heroic lead. Opening minutes very favorableSean PennSean Fennessey: Praised as remarkable, believable, and a key reason the movie works. About 24 min
favorableDeborah Kara UngerChris Ryan: Liked as an anxious, alluring presence; the hosts think her vibe is strong and wish she had become a bigger star. About 32 min
neutralArmin Mueller-StahlChris Ryan: Discussed as the authority figure whose scenes add tension, though the hosts also nitpick his character's logic. About 32 min
favorableJames RebhornChris Ryan: Celebrated as a quintessential that-guy actor and a scene-stealer. About 40 min neutralJodie FosterSean Fennessey: Mentioned as an early casting idea that the hosts think would not have worked as well. About 32 min neutralJeff BridgesSean Fennessey: Mentioned as an actor who was offered the Conrad role before Sean Penn. About 32 min favorableAndrew Kevin WalkerChris Ryan: Credited as part of the Fincher creative team; his name is praised through association with the movie's style and twists. About 24 min · medium confidenceneutralSpike JonzeBill Simmons: Mentioned as a paramedic in the ending and as part of the Fincher orbit. About 40 min favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Cited as giving the movie a positive three-and-a-half-star review and praising its paranoid ending. About 24 min
neutralCraig HorvathBill Simmons: Mentioned as someone who argued about the ending before the podcast began. Opening minutes · medium confidence
neutralDanny KellyBill Simmons: Referenced in a fantasy-football ad read, not in substantive movie discussion. About 1:12 · low confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The Game

Calls it a really good movie and a strong litmus test for liking the movies Fincher disavows.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

The Game

Argues that Fincher is underrating it and that it is closer to one of his best films than one of his worst.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLiked it

The Game

Says the ending is satisfying and he loves the last 20 minutes of the movie.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Michael Douglas

Frames Douglas as the last great version of this kind of unraveling, wealthy lead before his later career shift.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Michael Douglas

Describes Douglas as a star whose persona was built on being successful but vulnerable, and on playing characters whose power is violated.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Final airport ending

Says the final scene with Deborah Kara Unger and White Rabbit gives him chills and is a key reason the ending works.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Lunch scene with Conrad

Reveals Sean Penn's performance and establishes the movie's off-kilter energy immediately.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Deborah Kara Unger chase sequence

Chooses the main chase through CRS and the return to the empty building with cops as his favorite sequence.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Racquetball opening

Says Douglas playing racquetball in slow motion is a favorite moment and raises an unanswerable question about his athleticism.

About 32 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Deborah Kara Unger

Likes her casting story and supports the idea that her vibe made her the right choice.

About 32 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Loss of control

The film is read as a movie about a rich man being stripped of certainty and pushed through a manufactured crisis.

About 8 min

Movie-about-movies

They interpret the film as a meta-story about how movies manipulate audiences with information, twists, and spectacle.

About 8 min

Michael Douglas persona

The discussion frames Douglas as a signature late-80s/90s star playing wealthy, vulnerable, often unpleasant men.

Opening minutes

Pre-smartphone thriller

The hosts note that the plot depends on a pre-search-engine, pre-smartphone world where this scheme could function.

About 16 min

Fairy-tale/paranoid logic

The movie is treated as a surreal, twilight-zone-style allegory rather than strict realism.

About 8 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Fincher reportedly disowned the film and said the third act falls apart.

Opening minutes

Production note

Roger Ebert gave the movie three and a half stars and praised its paranoid vision.

About 24 min

Production note

The film grossed about $109 million on a $70 million budget.

About 24 min

Production note

The Criterion laserdisc reportedly includes an alternate ending where Nick simply walks away.

About 40 min

Production note

Spike Jonze appears as a paramedic in the ending.

About 40 min

Production note

The private-eye/authority actor in the movie was also in Seven.

About 40 min

Production note

The movie was originally planned earlier with Jonathan Mostow, Kyle MacLachlan, and Bridget Fonda.

About 32 min

Production note

Jodie Foster was once attached and later sued Polygram over the project.

About 32 min

Production note

Daniel Schorr is singled out as a newscaster cameo that helps the movie switch on.

About 48 min

Production note

The hosts joke that the game's budget and permits would be impossible to manage in real life.

About 56 min

Seven

Used as the immediate Fincher predecessor and a comparison point for style and dark tone.

Opening minutes

Fight Club

Cited as the later Fincher film he was able to make after The Game.

About 16 min

Panic Room

Used as an example of a Fincher movie that may not fully work but remains endlessly watchable.

About 16 min

The Twilight Zone

A comparison for the film's premise of an awful thing happening to a confused protagonist.

About 8 min

A Christmas Carol

The film is repeatedly framed as a Scrooge-style ghost story for Nick.

About 8 min

Wall Street

Used as the archetype of the kind of Douglas character this movie revisits.

Opening minutes

Fatal Attraction

Cited as part of Douglas's run of privileged-man-under-siege roles.

About 8 min

Basic Instinct

Another Douglas-era movie used to describe his star persona and movie choices.

About 8 min

Falling Down

Mentioned as a Douglas film about a man unraveling under pressure.

About 8 min

Crash

Referenced as Deborah Kara Unger's audition material and as evidence of her offbeat career choices.

About 32 min

Midnight Run

Used as an example of an older, rewatchable movie that depends on obsolete tech like payphones and cash.

About 16 min

Waterworld

Mentioned as a benchmark for huge 1990s budgets when estimating the game's cost.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Blair Witch

Cited as another film that would not work the same way in the internet era.

About 16 min

Don Draper

Used as an example of the kind of antihero role that replaced Michael Douglas parts on television.

About 8 min

Being John Malkovich

Referenced for Sean Penn's cameo and playful self-awareness near the end of his career.

About 24 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Sixers 'game' joke

Bill and Sean joke that the Philadelphia 76ers' recent troubles were all part of 'the game' and tease Chris with fake conspiracy therapy.

About 8 min

'Now you've done it'

Bill and Sean riff on the phrase as a fun horror-movie-style line and recurring reaction phrase.

About 32 min

DKU abbreviation

They repeatedly shorten Deborah Kara Unger to DKU and joke about her as a recurring fascination.

About 32 min

Pressing the bill question

The hosts repeatedly guess the total cost of the fake game and argue about what level of expense is plausible.

About 56 min

Birthday food tangent

The conversation detours into favorite birthday meals, with Bill discussing brujols and stuffed shells.

About 1:04

Sean Fennessey

“movie happening to a guy”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“I'm a goddamn human piñata!”
Opening minutes

Speaker not identified

“they fuck you and they fuck you”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“This is your game, Nicholas”
About 24 min

Bill Simmons

“the real fucking starts”
About 40 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where The Game is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before The Game, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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Chris Ryan headshotChris RyanThe Rewatchables
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