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THE REWATCHABLES · October 19, 2021

The Color of Money

A 1986 drama / sports directed by Martin Scorsese, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

DramaSports1980sDirected by Martin Scorsese
Overall episode#225Source sheet order
Movie year19861980s
Tomatometer87%Critics’ score
Metacritic77View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorMartin ScorseseDrama / Sports

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A lively praise-forward discussion of The Color of Money as a torch-passing sequel, a very rewatchable sports/con movie, and a showcase for Paul Newman, Tom Cruise, and Scorsese’s visual style. The hosts argue it is more entertaining than it is historically essential, and they especially celebrate the pool-hall sequences, the father-son/mentor dynamic, and the ending’s ambiguity.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The film’s torch-passing setup between Newman and Cruise gives it a built-in generational dynamic. Opening minutes
  2. 02Scorsese’s camera work makes confined pool halls feel kinetic and stylish. About 40 min
  3. 03Tom Cruise’s pool-playing and performance in the Werewolves of London sequence are mesmerizing. About 24 min
  4. 04The movie plays as a strong middle-aged sports movie about losing and regaining a fastball. About 32 min
  5. 05The ending is cool and unresolved, leaving the result offscreen but delivering a strong final line. About 1:20

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorRoger Ebert’s review is cited as missing the point and wanting too much catharsis. About 48 min
  2. moderateThe final “You used us” exchange feels under-explained to one host. About 1:20
  3. minorHelen Shaver’s role feels underwritten and could have been cast with a stronger, older star. About 1:20
  4. minorSome 1980s details have dated, including arcade game choices, bar-betting behavior, and pool’s lost cultural status. About 1:20

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Cruise’s Werewolves of London dance and trick-shot sequence

Vincent performs pool tricks, dances to Warren Zevon, and fully announces himself as a star.

About 24 min
Favorite

Newman’s Amos reveal / money speech

Eddie gets hustled by Amos, then delivers a long speech about brains, balls, and money won versus money earned.

About 48 min
positive

Diner / flirtation shutdown with Carmen

Eddie coolly handles Carmen’s flirting, keeping the relationship transactional and controlled.

About 16 min
Favorite

Two brothers and a stranger dinner setup

Eddie and Carmen pretend to be family, part of a clever manipulation sequence.

About 56 min
Favorite

Forest Whitaker as Amos

Whitaker’s brief appearance dominates the movie for a few minutes and reveals Amos as a hustler.

About 1:04
positive

Tournament comeback montage

Eddie starts rusty and gradually gets his game back while moving through pool halls.

About 1:04
mixed

Final apartment confrontation and goodbye

Vincent admits he threw the match, gives Eddie his cut, and the film ends with Eddie’s offscreen departure into the cold.

About 1:04

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Was Newman’s Oscar win a make-up award or deserved on its own?

Bill Simmons

Thinks the win was overdue but not merely a make-up award.

Sean Fennessey

Thinks the Oscar was justified and overdue because Newman had many worthy nominations.

They agreed About 48 min

Was Roger Ebert right that the film lacked electricity?

Sean Fennessey

No, Ebert missed the point and the movie works as it goes.

Bill Simmons

Agrees and says the film gets better as it goes and the review is wrong.

No final agreement About 1:20

Does Eddie’s forfeit and anger at Vincent make narrative sense?

Bill Simmons

Feels a missing scene is needed to justify Eddie’s change.

Sean Fennessey

Reads the ending as Eddie rejecting hustling in favor of integrity and self-actualized winning.

They partly agreed About 56 min

What is the movie’s most rewatchable scene?

Bill Simmons

Chooses the full Chalky/Werewolves sequence.

Chris Ryan

Also leans Werewolves but notes several other possible contenders.

Sean Fennessey

Prefers Grady Seasons / Whitaker-style showdown scenes.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorablePaul NewmanBill Simmons: Praised as one of the greatest movie stars/actors, with an immense run of iconic roles and an overdue Oscar win. Opening minutes favorableTom CruiseChris Ryan: Seen as a young star on the verge of becoming fully Cruise, with a future shaped by this movie’s star-making energy. About 8 min very favorableMartin ScorseseSean Fennessey: Lauded for making a confined, job-for-hire movie feel thrilling and visually inventive. About 40 min favorableRichard PriceChris Ryan: Credited for sharp, speed-of-light dialogue and for helping shape the film’s literary feel. About 40 min
favorableMary Elizabeth MastrantonioBill Simmons: Praised as a striking, memorable presence whose role and chemistry with Cruise are major strengths. About 1:20
very favorableForrest WhitakerBill Simmons: His brief scene as Amos is singled out as a major breakout, with a strong hustler reveal. About 1:04
favorableJohn TurturroBill Simmons: Referenced as the opponent Cruise demolishes early in the film. About 24 min · medium confidencefavorableRobert ShawBill Simmons: Referenced as the irreplaceable Quint from Jaws, in a comparison about Newman roles. About 16 min · medium confidencecriticalRoger EbertBill Simmons: His negative review is rejected as missing the film’s point and its ending. About 48 min neutralGeorge C. ScottChris Ryan: Referenced as the The Hustler character whose role Newman effectively evolves into here. About 1:20
neutralJackie GleasonSean Fennessey: Mentioned in comparison to The Hustler and the possibility of revisiting Minnesota Fats. About 1:12 · medium confidence
favorablePaul HermanBill Simmons: Identified as the bar player trying to get Vincent into the tournament. About 1:04
neutralBruce A. YoungBill Simmons: Identified as Mozelle and linked to the Risky Business universe. About 48 min
favorableBill CobbsBill Simmons: Mentioned positively as Orvis. About 1:12
neutralKeith McCreadyBill Simmons: Discussed as one of the 1980s pool stars whose cameos mattered then but not now. About 1:20
neutralSteve MizerakBill Simmons: Named as another pool figure whose presence was once culturally meaningful. About 1:20
favorableRobert PalmerChris Ryan: His songs in the soundtrack are praised as underrated and fitting. About 1:12
mixedEric ClaptonBill Simmons: His mid-80s comeback era is praised in the film, though one host says the music has not aged great in his household. About 1:12
mixedDon HenleyBill Simmons: Referenced through the soundtrack as part of the film’s 1980s music texture. About 1:12 · medium confidence
14 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Sean FennesseyLiked it

The Color of Money as a torch-passing sequel

Argues the film is both a business torch pass and a story-level torch pass about what young and old stars need to be.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Paul Newman as an actor-star fusion

Says Newman fused serious acting and movie-star charisma better than most, and treats his Oscar win as overdue.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLiked it

Tom Cruise in this phase of his career

Thinks Cruise is borrowing Newman-like qualities but would later lean more into giant-star movie choices.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Martin Scorsese’s direction

Sees it as a paycheck job that still contains exhilarating stylistic invention and makes confined spaces feel huge.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Werewolves of London pool-hall sequence

Treats the sequence as the movie’s defining display of Cruise’s movie-star charisma and physical commitment.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Werewolves of London pool-hall sequence

Says the sequence fully convinces you Vincent is a star and is the funniest example of Cruise committing to a bit.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The final tournament result being shown offscreen

Says withholding the final result is the right choice and fits the ending’s mic-drop quality.

About 1:20
Sean FennesseyDid not like it

Roger Ebert’s negative review

Disagrees with Ebert and thinks the review misses the film’s point about catharsis and entertainment.

About 48 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Fast Eddie Felsen

Reads Eddie as a loser/antihero in The Hustler and wants more Cruise roles with that kind of vulnerability.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The movie as an adult sports film

Says it hits differently as an older viewer who understands decline, adaptation, and getting a fastball back.

About 32 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Tom Cruise’s star image versus Newman’s

Argues Cruise is more of a go-go 1980s box-office product while Newman’s training and politics made him different.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

The finale and Eddie’s decision to forfeit

Feels the film needs one more scene to fully justify Eddie’s change of heart and the ‘used us’ line.

About 1:20
Chris RyanLiked it

The sequel/continuation structure

Likes that the movie revisits The Hustler world without being slavish to the earlier film’s plot mechanics.

About 1:20
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Soundtrack and style aging

Thinks the 80s style, wardrobe, and soundtrack still mostly work, especially Newman’s look and the music cues.

About 1:12
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Torch passing / generational change

The film mirrors a star transition as well as Eddie Felsen’s transition from old hustler to older hustler.

Opening minutes

Performance and movie stardom

The discussion contrasts Newman’s classic old-school star power with Cruise’s emerging 1980s megastar energy.

Opening minutes

Reinvention and aging

Eddie’s comeback arc becomes a meditation on losing and recovering skill, pride, and identity.

About 32 min

Craft as entertainment

Scorsese’s style, Richard Price’s dialogue, and the soundtrack are treated as the movie’s engine.

About 40 min

Sports-movie logic inside a con movie

The hosts argue the film works because it combines competition, hustling, and character psychology.

About 1:20
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie won the 1986 Oscar for Best Actor for Paul Newman.

Opening minutes

Production note

Scorsese’s only directed film that came in under schedule and under budget was this one.

About 1:20

Production note

The film had a $14.5 million budget and made $52.3 million.

About 1:20

Production note

Newman and Joanne Woodward were the first married couple to win his-and-hers Oscars since Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier.

About 1:20

Production note

The crew used a substitute cue made to resemble a Balabushka.

About 1:20

Production note

The film’s soundtrack includes Robbie Robertson, Eric Clapton, Robert Palmer, and Don Henley.

About 1:12

Production note

The Illinois Billiard Club location still has two of the tables used for the film.

About 1:20

Production note

The software game Doom was reportedly named after Cruise’s repeated ‘Doom’ line.

About 1:20 · medium confidence

Production note

Walter Tevis wrote the source material and also wrote The Queen’s Gambit novel.

About 1:20

Production note

Helen Shaver’s role was reportedly added late because the filmmakers worried about the Eddie/Vincent relationship being misread.

About 1:20

The Hustler

Used constantly as the predecessor film and as the key text that this sequel revisits and extends.

Opening minutes

Risky Business

Referenced through Bruce A. Young and Cruise’s early star persona.

About 48 min

Top Gun

Used to compare Cruise’s star-making trajectory and singing-along scenes.

About 16 min

Cocktail

Used as another example of Cruise’s unself-aware star persona and singing scenes.

About 1:12

Jerry Maguire

Referenced as a later Cruise role that still has a strong song-singing moment.

About 1:12

The Sting

Referenced as an earlier Newman movie and part of his star image for the hosts.

About 8 min

Jaws

Referenced because Newman allegedly turned down Quint.

About 16 min

Panic Room

Used as a comparison for a director taking a confined-space assignment and flexing style.

About 40 min

The Departed

Referenced to describe Scorsese’s later use of flashy montage and music-driven cutting.

About 1:04

Wolf of Wall Street

Referenced for Scorsese’s fast-cut, music-driven montage language.

About 1:04

Goodfellas

Used when identifying Paul Herman and discussing Scorsese collaborations.

About 1:04

Abyss

Referenced in discussion of Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio’s career and Cameron.

About 1:20

Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves

Used as an example of Mastrantonio’s later hit work.

About 1:20

Kiss of Death

Referenced as another Richard Price script and as a future Rewatchables candidate.

About 1:20

Sea of Love

Referenced as another Richard Price screenplay and a future episode candidate.

About 1:20
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Quigley poll digression

Bill repeatedly uses the Quigley poll as a way to discuss star power and marketability.

Opening minutes

‘You used us’ / missing-scene debate

Bill keeps returning to the ending and the sense that one scene is missing to justify Eddie’s change.

About 1:20

Pool and bar nostalgia

The hosts reminisce about pool halls, basement tables, and drinking bars from the 1980s and 1990s.

About 32 min

Tom Cruise singing along to songs

They turn Cruise’s habit of singing with music into a broader star-moment comparison across his films.

About 1:12

Child World / 80s retail riff

They joke about Child World as an old retail chain and use it as a 1980s nostalgia marker.

About 1:20

Sean Fennessey

“money won is twice as sweet”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“I’m back”
About 1:20

Chris Ryan

“you want me to pay you or not pay you?”
About 1:04

Bill Simmons

“We got a racehorse here”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“What you got in there?”
About 24 min

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