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THE REWATCHABLES · October 12, 2021

Cobra

A 1986 action / crime directed by George P. Cosmatos, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionCrime1980sDirected by George P. Cosmatos
Overall episode#224Source sheet order
Movie year19861980s
Tomatometer24%Critics’ score
Metacritic25View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorGeorge P. CosmatosAction / Crime

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A highly enthusiastic, joke-filled discussion treating Cobra as a gloriously excessive 1980s action movie that has become an inadvertent comedy. The hosts praise its star power, ridiculousness, action scenes, product placement, and odd editing, while noting its incoherence and wild excess.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The supermarket shootout is treated as the signature scene, combining tense action with absurdly confident Stallone behavior. About 32 min
  2. 02Stallone's bizarre choices—match toothpick, sunglasses, frozen pizza with scissors—make the movie endlessly quotable and rewatchable. About 32 min
  3. 03The film's 80s excess and lack of self-awareness make it feel like a time capsule of action-movie escalation. Opening minutes
  4. 04The Night Slasher and his cult give the movie a memorable villain side and a horror-movie energy. About 24 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe movie is incoherent because a later edit cut roughly 30 to 40 minutes of backstory and connective tissue. About 8 min
  2. moderateThe diner/flirting scene between Cobra and the witness is badly written and awkward. About 32 min
  3. minorBrigitte Nielsen's wig and robot-fashion montage look dated and strange. About 48 min
  4. minorThe final villain twist with the dirty cop and the original satanic-tattoo ending are discussed as messy or unnecessary cut material. About 48 min · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Supermarket shootout

Cobra calmly enters a grocery store during a mass shooting, stalks the aisles, and kills the attackers in a scene both hosts call the movie's best.

About 32 min
Favorite

Apartment pizza and Toys R Us scene

Cobra returns home, eats frozen pizza with scissors, and watches a Toys R Us commercial, which the hosts relish as absurd character business.

About 32 min
positive

Hospital attack

The Night Slasher stalks Brigitte at a darkened hospital, creating a classic slasher-movie set piece.

About 40 min
positive

Downtown LA car chase

A fragmented but fun chase through downtown Los Angeles and odd locations like a duck pond and freeway.

About 40 min
critical

Diner flirtation

A clunky attempt at romance between Cobra and the witness, highlighted by ketchup-on-fries and a giant cheeseburger.

About 32 min
mixed

Final warehouse shootout

An overlong, fiery climax with meat hooks, the Night Slasher's manifesto, and Cobra's final line about where the law stops and he starts.

About 48 min
mixed

Robot fashion montage

Brigitte models among robots while Cobra walks through a homeless sweep, which the hosts find laughably dated but memorable.

About 48 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed Opening minutes

Whether Cobra is an action movie or a comedy-horror movie

Bill Simmons

It now plays as a comedy and horror-comedy hybrid.

Kyle Brandt

It is one of the funniest movies of the 80s and should be treated as comedic.

They partly agreed About 8 min

Whether the shortened edit hurts the film

Bill Simmons

The movie was cut down from a longer, more ambitious version and lost connective tissue.

Kyle Brandt

The incoherent fast version is preferable as a lean fast-food experience.

They partly agreed About 48 min

Whether the deleted satanic-tattoo ending would have improved the movie

Bill Simmons

He thinks it would have been a great ending.

Kyle Brandt

He is surprised and interested, calling it a possible stronger version.

They agreed About 32 min

Most rewatchable scene

Bill Simmons

The supermarket scene is the best, though he also loves the apartment pizza bit.

Kyle Brandt

The supermarket scene is the clear winner.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableSylvester StalloneBill Simmons: Praised as the source of the movie's charm, ego, and absurdity; both hosts admire how unrestrained he is here. Opening minutes mixedBrigitte NielsenBill Simmons: Discussed as Stallone's girlfriend and as visually memorable but awkward in the film, especially because of the wig and modeling montage. About 8 min neutralGeorge P. CosmatosBill Simmons: Mentioned as the credited director whom the hosts imply was largely a figurehead for Stallone. About 8 min
neutralRick WaiteBill Simmons: Cited in a production anecdote about Stallone being told delays were caused by fooling around with Nielsen and bodyguards. About 8 min
favorableBrian ThompsonBill Simmons: Praised as physically imposing, scary, and a standout villain whose character was underwritten but effective. About 8 min
neutralClint EastwoodBill Simmons: Referenced as the Dirty Harry template that helped define the movie's cop fantasy. About 8 min neutralCharles BronsonBill Simmons: Used as another reference point in the vigilante-cop lineage that Cobra riffs on. About 8 min neutralEddie MurphyBill Simmons: Mentioned as the replacement who took over the Beverly Hills Cop project after Stallone's version became too expensive and humorless. About 8 min favorableNorm MacdonaldBill Simmons: Invoked through an SNL sketch where he jokes about Cobra to Stallone. About 24 min neutralSiskel and EbertBill Simmons: Used to illustrate the movie's negative critical reception; Ebert in particular disliked it. About 40 min criticalRoger EbertBill Simmons: Cited as someone who refused to review or enjoy the movie because he disliked its plot and violence. About 40 min favorableRenny SantoniKyle Brandt: Mentioned as a memorable supporting-actor type from Cobra and other projects like Seinfeld and Bad Boys. About 48 min
favorableArt LaFleurBill Simmons: Chosen as the standout that-guy, with Bill joking about his friendly, recognizable face from Field of Dreams. About 56 min
favorableRobert TepperBill Simmons: Referenced as the singer behind the montage song and the follow-up to Rocky IV's 'No Easy Way Out.' About 48 min
mixedJean BeauvoirBill Simmons: Mentioned as the artist behind 'Feel the Heat,' which they enjoy but also mock as odd montage music. About 48 min
neutralGeorge LucasBill Simmons: Used as a comparison for later tinkering with beloved films through director's cuts. About 24 min neutralAnthony Michael HallBill Simmons: Referenced in a side joke about high school anticipation and other 80s movies, not as a Cobra participant. About 16 min · low confidence
neutralCindy CrawfordBill Simmons: Mentioned in production trivia about a later Fair Game adaptation. About 56 min
neutralWilliam BaldwinBill Simmons: Mentioned alongside Cindy Crawford in the later Fair Game adaptation trivia. About 56 min
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cobra

Calls it a hilarious movie and an important Stallone title despite its flaws.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Cobra

Says it is Stallone's funniest movie and embraces it without irony.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Supermarket shootout

Treats the grocery-store massacre as the centerpiece scene and the movie's best sequence.

About 32 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Supermarket shootout

Agrees it is the defining scene and says he laughed through a genuinely scary sequence.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Frozen pizza with scissors

Finds the apartment pizza bit bizarre and iconic, another reason the movie works for him.

About 32 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Marion Cobretti

Admires Cobra's unfiltered ego and Stallone's willingness to indulge every quirk.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

1980s excess

Frames the movie as a perfect artifact of 1980s excess and Hollywood greed.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtMixed

Editing and missing footage

Believes the release version is broken by edits but still prefers the fast, stripped-down version over a longer cut.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Brian Thompson

Thinks Thompson is excellent and scary as the Night Slasher.

About 8 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Brian Thompson

Wishes Thompson had gotten a bigger career break and says the role shows huge potential.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsDid not like it

Director's cut / longer version

Rejects the idea of adding 40 minutes back into the film, preferring the compact mess it became.

About 24 min
Kyle BrandtLiked it

Robot fashion montage

Mocks how strange it is but still enjoys it as part of the movie's ridiculous texture.

About 40 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

80s excess and star ego

The film is framed as the product of Stallone's unchecked power and the era's broader excess, with no one telling him no.

Opening minutes

Dirty Harry-style vigilante policing

They trace Cobra to the Dirty Harry/Death Wish lineage of lone-cop justice and lawless urban fantasy.

About 8 min

Action as comedy

Both hosts treat the movie as a comedy now, with laughter coming from Stallone's seriousness and the film's absurdities.

Opening minutes

Product placement and commercialized spectacle

The movie's Pepsi, Coors, Toys R Us, and other branding are treated as part of its bizarre texture.

About 32 min

Apex-mountain masculinity tools

The car, knife, sunglasses, toothpick, and weaponry all function as signature action-movie iconography.

About 48 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie was originally based on the novel Fair Game by Paula Gosling.

About 56 min

Production note

A rough cut reportedly ran well over two hours, and an alternate cut was said to be about 40 minutes longer than the released version.

About 8 min

Production note

The released movie was trimmed to under 90 minutes partly so Warner Bros. could squeeze in more screenings.

About 8 min

Production note

The film was almost rated X for violence rather than sex.

About 40 min

Production note

The final scene was shot at the Pacific Coast Club in Long Beach.

About 56 min

Production note

The 1950 Mercury in the film was Stallone's own car, and multiple replicas were made for stunts.

About 56 min

Production note

The Night Slasher's knife was specially designed by knife designer Herman Schneider.

About 56 min

Production note

Stallone reportedly wanted to move a Seattle climax because he did not want to film nights due to mosquitoes.

About 48 min · medium confidence

Production note

Stallone said in 2018 that a Cobra TV remake had been discussed but nothing happened.

About 1:04 · medium confidence

Production note

The film body count is discussed as 52 total, with 41 killed by Marion Cobretti.

About 1:04

Dirty Harry

Used as the main lineage for Cobra's vigilante-cop fantasy.

Opening minutes

Death Wish

Another vigilante-justice touchstone in the movie's DNA.

About 8 min

Beverly Hills Cop

Referenced as the project Stallone rewrote before Murphy replaced him.

About 8 min

Rocky

Used with Rambo and Cobra as Stallone's three signature hero types.

About 8 min

Rambo

Part of the Stallone hero-triad and the comparison point for movie violence.

About 8 min

Lethal Weapon

Mentioned as part of the evolution of 80s action movies the podcast has already covered.

Opening minutes

Predator

Another benchmark in their run of 80s action episodes.

Opening minutes

Top Gun

Cited as the film Warner Bros. feared Cobra would have to compete against.

About 16 min

Halloween 2

Referenced for its hospital-slasher setup that Cobra echoes.

About 40 min

Silent Rage

Another hospital-horror reference point for Cobra's second-act sequence.

About 40 min

Back to the Future

Used as a comparison for product placement and pop-culture saturation.

About 48 min

The Wizard

Referenced as another example of blatant 80s corporate advertising.

About 48 min

The Program

Referenced in a separate joke about a possible Halloween costume or rewatchable episode.

About 1:04

The Terminator

Mentioned to note Brian Thompson's earlier appearance in the franchise.

About 1:12

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Indirectly referenced through the 'Bueller' style school nostalgia and 80s culture talk.

About 16 min · low confidence
12 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Match in mouth

Kyle says he'll do the whole episode with a match in his mouth as a Cobra tribute.

Opening minutes

Axis-clanging cult joke

They keep returning to the absurd image of the serial-killer cult banging axes in a drained pool.

Opening minutes

Dirty Harry-era genre genealogy

A recurring bit maps Cobra onto the lineage from Dirty Harry to Death Wish to later spoofed action-cop archetypes.

About 8 min

Product-placement counting

They enumerate the movie's Pepsi, Coors, Toys R Us, and other brand placements as part of its insanity.

About 32 min

Apex Mountain jokes

Repeated debates over what is at its absolute peak here: the knife, the Mercury, the cult, or the violence.

About 48 min

Safe house is never safe

They mock the genre trope that a 'safe house' is always the place where everything goes wrong.

About 1:04

Peter Schrager / Good Morning Football aside

A side joke compares Stallone's alleged set behavior to Peter Schrager's hypothetical treatment on a TV set.

About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“You're a disease and I'm the cure.”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“Where the law stops and I start.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“I don't shop here.”
About 32 min

Kyle Brandt

“God damn right we're doing Cobra.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“Feel the heat!”
About 48 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Cobra is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Cobra, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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