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THE REWATCHABLES · February 13, 2020

The Breakfast Club

A 1985 drama / teen directed by John Hughes, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

DramaTeen1980sDirected by John Hughes
Overall episode#118Source sheet order
Movie year19851980s
Tomatometer87%Critics’ score
Metacritic66View score
Roger Ebert3/4Original star rating
DirectorJohn HughesDrama / Teen

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A highly favorable discussion arguing that The Breakfast Club remains a defining teen movie because it captures adolescent identity, family pressure, and the feeling of being seriously seen. The hosts praise its one-set structure, quotability, performances, and cable rewatchability while also noting some dated or artificial elements.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Its one-location, dialogue-driven structure makes it easy to jump into at any point. Opening minutes
  2. 02The movie is packed with memorable lines and gestures that stay lodged in memory. Opening minutes
  3. 03The central 15-minute confession scene is singled out as one of the best stretches of any 80s movie. About 8 min
  4. 04The cast chemistry and archetypes remain vivid and recognizable. Opening minutes
  5. 05The soundtrack and iconic ending give the film lasting emotional imprint. About 48 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateBender is so dominant early that the movie can feel one-note for too long. About 16 min
  2. minorThe Claire/Bender romance feels somewhat artificial and fantastical to them as adults. About 16 min
  3. minorSome elements of the detention premise and punishment logic feel implausible. About 16 min
  4. minorThe dance sequence and some of the staging feel odd or dated by modern standards. About 1:12
  5. moderateBender's bullying and the locker graffiti are read as nastier and more troubling now. About 1:36

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

positive

Opening detention setup and library

The hosts love the fantasy library and the compact setup that makes the film easy to revisit.

Opening minutes
positive

Bender's punishment and Vernon confrontation

The escalating detention threats and Vernon face-off are cited as great comic-dramatic scenes.

About 8 min
Favorite

The group high sequence

The pot-smoking stretch is one of the movie's key pleasures, especially because it opens the emotional floodgates.

About 32 min
Favorite

The confession sequence

The long conversation where the kids reveal their problems is treated as the film's best stretch.

About 40 min
mixed

Emilio Estevez dance montage

The choreography is memorable but also strange and somewhat inexplicable to them.

About 1:12
Favorite

Ending fist pump

Judd Nelson's fist pump into the final freeze frame is treated as iconic.

About 48 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 8 min

Whether the film is too artificial or too authentic in its teen emotions

Bill Simmons

Says it feels authentic to teenage life and was revolutionary in how it treated kids seriously.

Wesley Morris

Allows that some lines feel too profound to sound like actual teenage speech.

They partly agreed About 16 min

Whether the Claire/Bender romance helps the movie

Chris Ryan

Thinks the film might have been better with less or no romance between them.

Bill Simmons

Accepts the appeal of the pairing for teen viewers.

They partly agreed About 1:36

How much of the movie's Bender behavior still plays today

Wesley Morris

Sees Bender as bullying and sociopathic by modern standards.

Bill Simmons

Treats the behavior as part of the era and the character's function.

They partly agreed About 1:36 · medium confidence

Whether a modern remake could work

Chris Ryan

Thinks the core could be remade but only with phone/vape-era adjustments.

Wesley Morris

Suggests a version with different racial and gender coding could work, but a bad script would ruin it.

14 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableJudd NelsonBill Simmons: Praised as the movie's standout overactor and magnetic center, though also noted as reportedly difficult off-camera. About 32 min very favorableMolly RingwaldBill Simmons: Described as the defining high school actress of the decade and a major star in the film. Opening minutes favorableAlly SheedyChris Ryan: Praised for the deadpan, damaged quality of Allison and for some of the film's best emotional beats. About 8 min favorableEmilio EstevezBill Simmons: Seen as likable and physically right for Andrew, with several hosts noting his movie-star potential. About 56 min very favorableAnthony Michael HallBill Simmons: Praised as legitimately funny and perhaps the most talented of the young cast. About 1:12 favorablePaul GleasonBill Simmons: Praised as an effective authority figure and the best supporting 'that guy' actor here. About 1:20 favorableJohn HughesBill Simmons: Lauded as a singular teen filmmaker with a remarkable run of hits, even while some of his choices are criticized as dated. About 16 min mixedPauline KaelBill Simmons: Mentioned as having criticized the movie as phony teen angst, which the hosts partly dispute. About 32 min favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Cited as having given the film three stars and praised the performances. About 56 min favorableMolly RingwaldBill Simmons: Her later New Yorker reflection on the film is praised as thoughtful and honest. About 1:36
neutralDavid BowieBill Simmons: His lyric is the opening quote and is discussed as a thematic statement about teenage defiance. About 16 min
favorableCarl the janitorWesley Morris: Celebrated as the movie's wisest adult and one of its best heat-check characters. About 48 min
neutralRick MoranisBill Simmons: Mentioned only as an original choice for the janitor role who left over creative differences. About 1:36
favorableJohn CapelosBill Simmons: Noted as the actor playing Carl, and the source of a behind-the-scenes feud with Estevez. About 1:36
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Breakfast Club as a whole

Calls it one of his favorite movies ever and says it still holds up on repeated viewing.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

The Breakfast Club as a cable movie

Says it is the perfect cable movie because you can jump in anywhere and not lose the thread.

Opening minutes
Wesley MorrisLiked it

the music-video dance sections

Likes the strange, non-diegetic dance sequences as very 1985 and culturally revealing.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Breakfast Club's teen archetypes

Thinks the movie perfectly captures the five classic high school buckets.

About 8 min
Wesley MorrisLiked it

Bender

Admires Judd Nelson's performance but also reads Bender as a largely one-note bully.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

John Hughes

Sees Hughes as a singular 80s talent with an unmatched run of hits.

About 32 min
Chris RyanLoved it

the long group confession stretch

Argues that the movie's best material is the 15-minute stretch of shared confession and emotional switching.

About 8 min
Wesley MorrisLoved it

Carl the janitor

Calls Carl the movie's most sophisticated adult and loves the performance.

About 1:20
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Claire

Suggests Claire may be underwritten compared with Bender and could use stronger writing.

About 24 min · medium confidence
Wesley MorrisLiked it

the film's editing and reaction shots

Likes how much information is conveyed through cuts, glances, and reactions rather than dialogue alone.

About 1:12
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Teen alienation and parental disappointment

The film is framed as kids feeling ignored or misunderstood by parents and adults.

About 8 min

Identity through archetypes

The movie starts with simple high school types, then argues for their complexity and humanity.

About 8 min

Adult failure versus adolescent vulnerability

The hosts note that the adults are often the damaged ones, or at least the ones who have lost something with age.

About 16 min

Cable-era cultural endurance

They treat the movie as a quintessential cable film that survived through repetition and easy entry points.

Opening minutes

The social performance of teen rebellion

Bender's persona is discussed as partly an image or performance rather than pure authenticity.

Opening minutes
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie was made for about $1 million and grossed about $54 million.

About 56 min

Production note

There are only 10 speaking parts in the film.

About 56 min

Production note

The library set was built and is not a real library.

Opening minutes

Production note

Molly Ringwald was originally meant to play Allison, while Ally Sheedy was initially supposed to play Claire.

About 1:36

Production note

Emilio Estevez was originally going to play Bender.

About 1:36

Production note

John Cusack and Judd Nelson were finalists for Bender.

About 1:36

Production note

Rick Moranis was originally attached to play the janitor.

About 1:36

Production note

Anthony Michael Hall was offered the lead in Full Metal Jacket.

About 1:36

Production note

Simple Minds did not initially expect 'Don't You Forget About Me' to become their signature song.

About 1:36

Production note

The dandruff on Ally Sheedy was actually Parmesan cheese.

About 1:20

Fast Times at Ridgemont High

Used as the starting point for the 80s teen-movie boom and a contrast to Hughes's more authentic feeling.

About 8 min

Rebel Without a Cause

Invoked as a more nationally grounded teen-angst movie than The Breakfast Club.

About 32 min

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Used to discuss John Hughes, Cameron, and the shared school set.

About 32 min

St. Elmo's Fire

Compared to this film as a post-Brat Pack follow-up with awkward casting and creepier dynamics.

About 40 min

Vacation

Cited as part of Hughes's writing run and as still extremely funny.

About 40 min

Risky Business

Mentioned in a list of 1983 teen/crossover movies.

About 8 min

The Karate Kid

Named as one of the key teen hits in the mid-80s boom.

About 8 min

Back to the Future

Included in the same wave of major teen-oriented hits.

About 8 min

Trading Places

Referenced through Paul Gleason's role and as another supporting-actor benchmark.

About 1:20

Full Metal Jacket

Used in a casting what-if about Anthony Michael Hall.

About 1:04

The Dead Zone

Referenced as one of Anthony Michael Hall's later projects.

About 1:12

Top Gun

Used to discuss 80s musical montage style and teen spectacle.

About 1:12

The Goonies

Mentioned in the broader 80s youth-film explosion and in a contraption joke about school property.

About 8 min

Ladyhawke

Mentioned in the Brat Pack/New York magazine discussion involving Emilio Estevez.

About 40 min

New Jack City

Used as a later Judd Nelson example that finally fits his intensity.

About 32 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Bender insult chain

The hosts keep quoting and repeating Bender's escalating detention insults and threats.

About 24 min

Benevolent bender

They joke about having had a harmless version of Bender in high school.

About 16 min

High school archetype self-assessment

The hosts compare themselves and friends to the movie's archetypes and social-club types.

About 16 min

Niagara Falls area joke

A made-up sexual boast becomes a recurring joke about fake hometown hookups.

About 56 min

Larry Lester / detention escalation

They repeatedly recite the detention-threat sequence and Larry Lester anecdote as a comic set piece.

About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“A brain, a beauty, a jock”
Opening minutes

Wesley Morris

“I fucking love the janitor.”
About 1:20

Bill Simmons

“Don't you forget about me”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“When you grow old, your heart dies”
About 16 min

Chris Ryan

“We're all pretty bizarre”
About 48 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where The Breakfast Club is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before The Breakfast Club, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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