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THE REWATCHABLES · January 21, 2021

Terminator

A 1984 sci-fi / action directed by James Cameron, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

Sci-fiAction1980sDirected by James Cameron
Overall episode#184Source sheet order
Movie year19841980s
Tomatometer90%Critics’ score
Metacritic84View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorJames CameronSci-fi / Action

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A highly enthusiastic discussion of The Terminator as a foundational 80s action/horror hybrid, a showcase for Arnold Schwarzenegger, and a key step in James Cameron’s rise. The hosts emphasize its rewatchability, lean construction, iconic lines, and influence on later action movies and franchises.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Arnold’s performance as an unkillable machine with iconic delivery and physical presence. About 8 min
  2. 02Tech Noir as a major escalation point where the movie’s rules become clear. About 32 min
  3. 03The gunsmith scene is endlessly replayable for Arnold’s precise, memorable weapon requests. About 1:12
  4. 04The movie is compact and full of momentum, making it easy to rewatch in bursts or straight through. About 32 min
  5. 05The practical effects, chase scenes, and final truck/fire sequence remain exciting and surprisingly durable. About 40 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorSome early stop-motion and future-war effects look dated by modern standards. About 1:04
  2. minorLinda Hamilton’s 80s haircut and some fashion/hair choices have not aged well. About 1:04
  3. minorGinger’s post-sex sandwich and milk feel extreme or outdated. About 1:04
  4. minorJohn Connor’s recorded message to Sarah is emotionally thin and oddly phrased. About 1:04

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Tech Noir

The nightclub shootout and reveal of Arnold’s near-unkillable nature are treated as the movie’s key rewatchable sequence.

About 32 min
Favorite

Gun shop purchase

Arnold’s methodical selection of weapons is highlighted as endlessly quotable and cool.

About 1:12
positive

Kyle’s future explanation

The future-war exposition is praised for making the time-travel premise easy to grasp.

About 40 min
Favorite

Police station car crash and assault

The Terminator driving into the station and the ensuing chaos are praised for their impact and sound design.

About 40 min
Favorite

Final Mexico scene

Sarah’s transformation into a hardened survivor is treated as a powerful closing note and setup for the sequel.

About 48 min
Favorite

Truck chase and explosion

The oil-rig chase and explosion are singled out as astonishing practical-action filmmaking.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:20

Whether Tech Noir or the precinct assault is the movie’s most rewatchable scene

Chris Ryan

Tech Noir is the most rewatchable scene because it reveals the movie’s threat and rules.

Bill Simmons

The precinct assault is also a contender, but Tech Noir still stands out.

They agreed About 8 min

Whether Arnold’s bad-guy casting was also his best use as an actor

Shea Serrano

Yes, the role perfectly matches his physical presence and screen persona.

Bill Simmons

Yes, but it is also a compliment and an insult because it uses his limitations well.

They partly agreed About 1:12 · medium confidence

Whether the film’s time-travel rules are logically airtight

Bill Simmons

The movie mostly works, though some questions remain about the future and the message.

Chris Ryan

The rules are simple enough and more satisfying than later franchise complexity.

They partly agreed About 1:12 · medium confidence

Whether this would work as a Netflix series

Bill Simmons

It could work as a 10-episode show with more backstory.

Chris Ryan

It could, but the future material would be best handled via parallel timelines.

12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableArnold SchwarzeneggerBill Simmons: Praised as the perfect casting for the Terminator, with iconic physical presence and line delivery. About 8 min very favorableJames CameronBill Simmons: Praised as a visionary who fused horror, action, and world-building into a new template. About 8 min favorableLinda HamiltonShea Serrano: Seen as perfect in the role, especially in the transformation from frightened waitress to survivor. About 48 min favorableMichael BiehnShea Serrano: Admired for intense, skinny, doomed-hero energy as Kyle Reese. About 40 min favorableBill PaxtonBill Simmons: His brief cameo is highlighted as memorable and funny. About 48 min favorableRick RossovichShea Serrano: A favorite supporting presence whose fight with Arnold is singled out as very rewatchable. About 32 min favorableLance HenriksenBill Simmons: Mentioned as an overqualified cop and part of the strong supporting cast. About 48 min favorablePaul WinfieldBill Simmons: Praised as another strong cop casting choice with a lived-in 80s police-station vibe. About 48 min favorableStan WinstonBill Simmons: Credited for ahead-of-the-time effects work on the robot arm and body mechanics. About 1:04
neutralGail Ann HurdBill Simmons: Named as the producer Cameron found and later married. About 24 min
criticalMike MedavoyBill Simmons: Described as unsupportive during development and later opportunistic about the film’s success. About 40 min
neutralRoger EbertBill Simmons: Mentioned mainly because the film was not screened for critics. About 40 min
8 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Terminator as an action-movie landmark

Calls it one of the most important action movies ever and part of the birth of modern action cinema.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

James Cameron’s low-budget genre approach

Argues Cameron turned slasher-movie sensibility into a sci-fi blockbuster template.

About 8 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Says Arnold is the movie’s best thing and the role fits him perfectly.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Says Arnold’s casting as the Terminator is the best use of his talents and helped redefine him as a star.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Tech Noir

Chooses Tech Noir as the most rewatchable scene because it clarifies the film’s threat and stakes.

About 1:20
Bill SimmonsLoved it

gun-buying scene

Reveals that the gun shop sequence is one of his favorite rewatchable moments.

About 1:12
Shea SerranoLoved it

Rick Rossovich fight scene

Highlights the underwear fight and window throw as the coolest energy in the movie.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Terminator’s 80s home-video/cable replay value

Argues the movie became iconic because it was endlessly rewatched on HBO and later home video formats.

About 32 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Action-horror hybrid

The episode frames the film as a fusion of slasher, sci-fi, and action movie DNA, with horror rules applied to a blockbuster chase.

About 8 min

Arnold Schwarzenegger’s star-making use

They argue the role uses Arnold’s physicality, limited line delivery, and screen presence almost perfectly.

About 8 min

James Cameron as franchise architect

The film is presented as an early blueprint for Cameron’s world-building, set-piece construction, and future sequels.

About 24 min

80s cable rewatch culture

The hosts emphasize how HBO, VHS, and DVD made the movie a repeated-viewing staple.

About 32 min

Time travel simplicity

The movie’s time-travel rules are described as cleaner and more intuitive than later sci-fi films.

About 1:12 · medium confidence
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie had a $6.4 million budget and made about $78 million.

About 1:04

Production note

The studio did not screen the film for critics, so there is no Roger Ebert review.

About 40 min

Production note

James Cameron wrote the script after a nightmare involving a metal figure clawing through fire with knives.

About 24 min

Production note

The original concept had two Terminators, including a liquid-metal one saved for the sequel.

About 1:12

Production note

Cameron’s pitch reportedly featured Lance Henriksen dressed as the Terminator.

About 1:12

Production note

Schwarzenegger reportedly wanted to say ‘I will be back,’ but Cameron insisted on ‘I’ll be back.’

About 56 min

Production note

Bill Paxton is noted as the only actor killed by a Terminator, an alien, and a predator.

About 48 min

Production note

Harlan Ellison’s legal complaint led to settlement credit and money for later prints.

About 1:04

Production note

The film’s future war is set in 2029, which the hosts joke is now uncomfortably close.

About 56 min

Production note

Schwarzenegger speaks only 17 lines and under 100 words.

About 1:12

First Blood

Used as part of the host thesis about the birth of modern action movies.

Opening minutes

48 Hours

Cited as another key early-80s action template.

Opening minutes

Die Hard

Used as a later link in the action-movie evolution chain.

About 8 min

Halloween

Referenced as the slasher model Cameron was channeling.

About 8 min

Escape from New York

Used to describe the film’s synth, urban wasteland, and Carpenter influence.

About 8 min

Pumping Iron

Cited to explain Arnold’s charisma and public persona before acting fame.

About 24 min

Rambo II

Mentioned in discussion of Cameron’s work during the production delay.

About 24 min

Aliens

Referenced as Cameron’s next major step and a possible better fit for Michael Biehn.

About 40 min

The Rock

Used as one of the few films Shea associates with Michael Biehn.

About 40 min

Dark Knight

Used as a comparison for modern action set pieces and lower body count norms.

About 40 min

Blade Runner

Referenced as a sci-fi/urban-dystopia comparison point.

About 40 min

Top Gun

Mentioned both as an era peer and as a comparison for Rick Rossovich and sunglasses.

About 48 min

Karate Kid

Referenced as one of the cable-era rewatchable staples.

About 24 min

Purple Rain

Used as another key 1984 cultural touchstone and cable rewatchable.

About 8 min

Beverly Hills Cop

Mentioned as a peer 1984 blockbuster and cable staple.

About 8 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Tech Noir as a recurring shorthand

The club becomes a catch-all reference for the film’s midpoint escalation and 80s LA atmosphere.

About 32 min

HBO rewatchable rotation

They keep returning to the idea that cable TV made this and similar 80s movies endlessly rewatchable.

About 24 min

‘Arnold as a robot’ praise loop

They repeatedly marvel at how naturally Arnold fits an unkillable machine role.

About 16 min

80s hair jokes

Linda Hamilton’s hair and the era’s styling are joked about as exaggerated and dated.

About 1:04

The ‘that guy’ award

They debate which supporting actor best fits the episode’s Joey Pants-style category.

About 1:28

Speaker not identified

“I'll be back.”
About 56 min

Bill Simmons

“Fuck you, asshole.”
About 56 min

Bill Simmons

“I came across time for you, Sarah.”
About 1:04

Shea Serrano

“Don't make me bust you up, man!”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“Sarah Connor.”
About 16 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Terminator is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Terminator, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

ON THE MIC

3 voices on this episode

Bill Simmons headshotBill SimmonsThe Rewatchables
Chris Ryan headshotChris RyanThe Rewatchables
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