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THE REWATCHABLES · April 19, 2022

Spider-Man (2002)

A 2002 action / fantasy / superhero directed by Sam Raimi, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionFantasySuperhero2000sDirected by Sam Raimi
Overall episode#250Source sheet order
Movie year20022000s
Tomatometer90%Critics’ score
Metacritic73View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorSam RaimiAction / Fantasy / Superhero

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts argue that Spider-Man was a landmark superhero movie that nailed the character, the effects, and the structure of the modern blockbuster. They view it as a hugely rewatchable, foundational film for superhero cinema and for Spider-Man’s later cultural dominance.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Strong origin-story structure that quickly establishes Peter Parker, Uncle Ben, and the stakes. About 16 min
  2. 02Practical effects plus CGI make the action feel tactile and still effective. About 24 min
  3. 03Iconic action set pieces, especially the Green Goblin fights and the rain kiss. About 40 min
  4. 04Willem Dafoe’s performance and J.K. Simmons’s J. Jonah Jameson elevate every rewatch. About 56 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe organic web-fluid concept is considered awkward and dated. About 48 min
  2. minorSome CGI moments, especially crowd and balloon effects, look rough by current standards. About 48 min
  3. moderateThe film includes a homophobic joke during the wrestling scene. About 48 min
  4. moderatePeter’s behavior around Uncle Ben and Mary Jane is read as dishonest or sociopathic. About 1:04 · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Peter catches Mary Jane and fights Flash

The cafeteria sequence where Peter reflexively catches Mary Jane and then beats Flash is highlighted as a great early payoff.

About 40 min
Favorite

Training montage and suit assembly

Peter tests his powers, designs the suit, and learns web-shooting in a satisfying montage.

About 48 min
Favorite

Green Goblin’s first fight at the gala

The first Goblin-versus-Spider-Man clash is praised as a standout action scene.

About 40 min
Favorite

Thanksgiving dinner with Norman Osborn

The dinner scene is remembered for uncomfortable tension, Goblin menace, and plot revelation.

About 40 min
Favorite

Rain kiss

The upside-down kiss in the rain is treated as the movie’s signature romantic moment.

About 48 min
Favorite

Final abandoned-house battle

The final fight is praised for feeling physical and intense despite the CGI era.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:12 · medium confidence

Which Spider-Man movie is the franchise’s apex

Van Lathan

Suggests this film and Spider-Man 2 together are the apex of Raimi Spider-Man.

Charles Holmes

Suggests Spider-Man No Way Home may now be the apex for Spider-Man films overall.

No final agreement About 48 min

Whether X-Men is a great precursor superhero movie

Charles Holmes

Calls the 2000 X-Men film influential but not as good as Spider-Man.

Van Lathan

Pushes back and says X-Men is not a great movie.

No final agreement About 40 min

James Cameron would have made a better Spider-Man

Charles Holmes

Thinks Cameron’s version would have changed fandom and possibly been more horny.

Van Lathan

Questions whether Cameron’s version would actually surpass Raimi’s film.

They agreed About 1:04 · medium confidence

Whether Peter Parker is a sociopath

Van Lathan

Leans yes, citing lying and bad behavior after Uncle Ben’s death.

Charles Holmes

Agrees that Peter’s behavior is suspicious and extreme.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableTobey MaguireVan Lathan: Presented as the definitive Peter Parker and the film’s biggest star-making success. About 16 min
favorableKirsten DunstVan Lathan: Praised as a strong, sexy, vulnerable Mary Jane who fits the role well. About 24 min
mixedJames FrancoVan Lathan: Described as effective in the film but also creepy and later typecast by his offscreen persona. About 24 min very favorableWillem DafoeVan Lathan: Celebrated for an intense, over-the-top Green Goblin performance that still works. About 56 min very favorableJ.K. SimmonsVan Lathan: Seen as iconic as J. Jonah Jameson and not merely overacting in a bad way. About 56 min very favorableSam RaimiCharles Holmes: Credited with combining horror instincts, practical effects, and superhero storytelling into a breakthrough film. About 24 min mixedRoger EbertVan Lathan: Mentioned as a critic who only gave the movie two and a half stars. About 24 min
favorableBrian Michael BendisCharles Holmes: Discussed as the writer whose Ultimate Spider-Man helped modernize the character for a new generation. About 8 min
mixedJames CameronVan Lathan: Discussed as a major alternate director whose Spider-Man version might have been very different and more sexualized. About 32 min neutralCillian MurphyCharles Holmes: Suggested as a possible Harry Osborn recast. About 1:04 neutralScarlett JohanssonCharles Holmes: Suggested as an alternate Mary Jane. About 1:04 neutralSamuel L. JacksonVan Lathan: Joked as a proposed Norman Osborn recast in a race-swapped version of the film. About 1:04
neutralTyreseVan Lathan: Joked as a proposed Harry Osborn recast opposite Samuel L. Jackson. About 1:04
neutralWolverineVan Lathan: Mentioned in a planned but unrealized cameo involving Hugh Jackman. About 1:12
neutralHugh JackmanVan Lathan: Mentioned as having flown to New York for a canceled Wolverine cameo. About 1:12
very favorableMacho Man Randy SavageCharles Holmes: Praised as the best heat-check performance in the film. About 56 min
favorableOctavia SpencerVan Lathan: Mentioned as a small but memorable presence in the wrestling office scene. About 40 min
neutralElon MuskVan Lathan: Used only in a joke about whether rich people keep guns in drawers. About 1:12
neutralMartin ScorseseVan Lathan: Referenced as a longtime skeptic of franchise cinema. About 1:12
13 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Charles HolmesLoved it

Spider-Man as a formative childhood blockbuster

Says the movie scared him as a kid and marked the moment superhero culture became real.

Opening minutes
Van LathanLoved it

Spider-Man as a post-9/11 exhale

Views the movie as a comforting cultural reset after 9/11.

About 8 min
Charles HolmesLoved it

CGI and practical effects blend

Argues the film’s effects still look seamless and innovative.

About 16 min
Van LathanLoved it

Spider-Man as the modern superhero template

Says the movie teaches the structure of superhero filmmaking for the next 20 years.

About 24 min
Charles HolmesLoved it

training montage

Loves the sequence of Peter testing powers and building the suit.

About 48 min
Van LathanLoved it

rain kiss

Calls the rain-kiss scene the movie’s most iconic and rewatchable moment.

About 48 min
Charles HolmesLoved it

Green Goblin

Thinks Willem Dafoe’s villain performance is wildly committed and still hilarious.

About 56 min
Van LathanDid not like it

organic web-fluid choice

Calls the organic web-fluid idea strange and unsatisfying.

About 48 min
Charles HolmesLiked it

Peter Parker

Says Tobey Maguire is still his definitive Spider-Man.

About 1:04
Van LathanLoved it

Tobey Maguire

Sees Maguire’s casting as a career-defining win.

About 16 min
Van LathanLoved it

Sam Raimi

Treats Raimi as an elite director whose Spider-Man made him a blockbuster maker.

About 32 min
Charles HolmesMixed

James Franco

Thinks Franco worked in the role but jokes that he fit the creepy Harry Osborn type.

About 24 min · medium confidence
Van LathanLoved it

Kirsten Dunst

Says Dunst is perfectly cast and at her career peak here.

About 24 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Birth of the modern superhero movie

The hosts argue this film established the template for later superhero blockbusters.

About 16 min

Fandom and monoculture

They frame the movie as a rare early-2000s event that everyone knew about at once.

About 8 min

Post-9/11 cultural reset

Van links the film’s release to a sense of exhaling after 9/11.

About 8 min

Performance and embodiment

They emphasize how Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, J.K. Simmons, and Willem Dafoe embody the characters.

About 32 min

Theatrical spectacle versus intimacy

They praise how the movie balances big effects with close, physical fights and emotional stakes.

About 24 min
24 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Spider-Man reportedly had the first $100 million opening weekend.

About 24 min

Production note

The movie grossed about $825 million worldwide.

About 1:12

Production note

Four costumes from the movie were stolen and later recovered.

About 1:12

Production note

Willem Dafoe did 90% of his own stunts.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

Production note

Hugh Jackman was reportedly lined up for a Wolverine cameo that was abandoned.

About 1:12

Production note

James Franco and Tobey Maguire reportedly had on-set tension.

About 1:12

Production note

A crew member allegedly offered Joe Manganiello $100 to punch Tobey Maguire for real.

About 1:04 · medium confidence

Production note

The desk role at the wrestling venue was first offered to Tig Notaro before Octavia Spencer auditioned.

About 1:12

Production note

The episode repeatedly notes that Spider-Man’s first appearance was partly CGI but still combined with practical stunt work.

About 16 min

Blade

Used as an early Marvel film that helped pave the way for superhero cinema.

About 8 min

The Matrix trilogy

Mentioned as part of the broader early-2000s blockbuster environment.

About 8 min

Attack of the Clones

Cited as a same-year blockbuster competing in the same cultural space.

About 8 min

Batman

Used as an earlier superhero-film comparison for proving comic-book heroes can work on screen.

About 8 min

Superman

Referenced as the film that proved a man could fly, by analogy to Spider-Man.

About 16 min

Titanic

Cited as a benchmark for early CGI and a huge Cameron-era blockbuster.

About 8 min

Ultimate Spider-Man

Discussed as the comic line that refreshed the character for younger readers.

About 8 min

Marvel Knights

Mentioned as Marvel’s darker prestige publishing push before the film.

About 8 min

The Amazing Spider-Man

Used as a later comparison for weaker-looking effects and less tactile action.

About 48 min

No Way Home

Referenced as a later Spider-Man film showing the character’s ongoing dominance.

About 32 min

Iron Man

Mentioned as the film Marvel made after securing financing to control its own movies.

About 1:12

Endgame

Used as a comparison point for box office and the MCU’s scale.

About 32 min

Civil War

Referenced as one of the MCU films where Spider-Man appears.

About 32 min

The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

Cited as a same-year blockbuster with major franchise momentum.

About 24 min

Gossip Girl

Used as a later example of high-school casting that actually looked age-appropriate.

About 40 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Pew pew / Ringerverse banter

The hosts joke about being called up to the ‘majors’ and riff in their nerd-culture voice.

Opening minutes

Old-man / young-kid contrast

They repeatedly joke about their age gap and different Spider-Man upbringings.

Opening minutes

Green Goblin is a freak

Van jokes repeatedly about Norman Osborn’s flirtatious, chaotic behavior at Thanksgiving.

About 40 min

Waves / racial recasting joke

Van jokes about casting Samuel L. Jackson and Tyrese as a Black Osborn family with waves.

About 1:04

Calling out bad high-school casting

They keep laughing at the fact that the teen characters look too old.

About 40 min

Charles Holmes

“this movie scared the shit out of me”
Opening minutes

Van Lathan

“the movie was just everywhere”
About 8 min

Charles Holmes

“Spider-Man is patient zero”
Opening minutes

Van Lathan

“I'm something of a scientist too, Peter.”
About 56 min

Van Lathan

“with great power comes great responsibility”
Opening minutes

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