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THE REWATCHABLES · April 2, 2024

Shot Caller

A 2017 crime / thriller movie directed by Ric Roman Waugh—and decision no. 2 in the Hanks–Cruise tape.

CrimeThriller2010sDirected by Ric Roman Waugh
Shot Caller2017MOVIE

ON THIS EPISODE

Podcast episode#334No. 351 overall
Movie year20172010s release
Tomatometer69%No. 78 of 128 tracked
Metacritic59View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
State of the raceThe race was tied1–1 · 0 ties

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Shot Caller is a tightly made, highly rewatchable prison thriller with strong prison-movie pleasures: hierarchy, slang, riots, shanks, brutal pecking orders, and a compelling rise-and-fall structure. The hosts are enthusiastic about its California-crime feel, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau’s turn, and Jon Bernthal’s performance, while noting some plotting compression and a slightly messy gun-deal finale.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The dual-timeline structure turns Jacob’s rise into a satisfying prison-movie escalation. Opening minutes
  2. 02It delivers core prison-movie pleasures: hierarchy, nicknames, slang, riots, shanks, and cellmate sizing-up. About 8 min
  3. 03Jon Bernthal’s role gives the movie extra electricity and scene-stealing energy. About 32 min
  4. 04The final beast confrontation and its cage-setting are visually memorable. About 48 min
  5. 05The movie’s LA-crime atmosphere feels like Michael Mann-adjacent cool. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe gun-deal / Mexican-gang plot feels compressed and a little knotty. About 40 min
  2. moderateJacob seems to cut off his family too abruptly for emotional clarity. About 40 min
  3. minorThe movie may move too quickly from family man to gang figure without enough runway. About 40 min
  4. minorThe accent work occasionally feels shaky. About 40 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Money at the prison party

Bernthal’s party and the reveal of Money’s status create a shocking cold-open energy and define his prison identity.

About 32 min
Favorite

Double date and car crash

The early civilian-life scene ends in the accident that triggers the prison arc.

About 32 min
positive

Prison intake / lawyer warning speech

The lawyer warns Jacob about violent crimes being housed together and needing to stand up for himself.

About 32 min
Favorite

First night crying inmate

Jacob watches a new inmate get attacked after crying, underscoring prison terror.

About 40 min
positive

Jacob’s first fight / peckerwood confrontation

Jacob has to establish himself quickly after being called peckerwood.

About 40 min
mixed

Bernthal reveal as snitch

Shotgun’s outside-world snitching and drug use reframe his nervous energy.

About 40 min
Favorite

Money’s first murder

Money’s first kill is staged as a turning-point moment with strong slow-motion impact.

About 40 min
Favorite

Riot sequence

The prison riot features weapon passing, camera positioning, and coordinated chaos.

About 40 min
Favorite

Money vs. Beast final fight

The final confrontation is quick, brutal, and visually striking in the desert cages.

About 48 min
mixed

Money’s post-prison family meeting

The son confrontation and family rupture add emotional weight but also raise questions about his choices.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed About 16 min

Best prison movie of all time

Bill Simmons

Shawshank Redemption at the top

Chris Ryan

Cool Hand Luke at the top

They agreed About 16 min

Whether The Rock and Con Air count as prison movies

Bill Simmons

No, they are prison-adjacent, not true prison movies

Chris Ryan

Agrees they are adjacent rather than true prison movies

They partly agreed About 48 min

Whether the movie should have been more linear

Bill Simmons

A linear structure might have intensified the rock-bottom effect

Chris Ryan

The non-linear opening is grabbier and less likely to lose viewers

They agreed About 56 min

Cruise vs. Hanks as the ideal lead

Chris Ryan

Tom Cruise is the better fit for the role

Bill Simmons

Prefers Cruise and says Hanks has no chance

11 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableNikolaj Coster-WaldauBill Simmons: Bill thinks he is excellent as Money/Jacob and notes his physical presence and soulfulness. About 24 min
very favorableJon BernthalBill Simmons: Bill and CR repeatedly praise Bernthal’s intensity, scene-stealing, and death scene. About 32 min
favorableRick Roman WaughBill Simmons: Bill likes Waugh’s prison-crime sensibility and compares him favorably to Michael Mann-adjacent filmmaking. About 8 min
favorableHolt McCallanyBill Simmons: Bill likes him as the Beast and calls the performance visually striking. About 40 min favorableJeffrey DonovanBill Simmons: Bill praises him as Bottles and points to his riot behavior and prison walk. About 48 min
mixedOmari HardwickBill Simmons: Bill likes him but thinks one confrontation scene is over-the-top in a fun way. About 48 min
favorableLake BellBill Simmons: Bill says she does a good job in a small role and is an important emotional counterpoint. About 40 min
neutralBen FosterBill Simmons: Mentioned only in passing while discussing future mailbag/prison casting ideas. About 48 min · medium confidence
very favorableMichael MannBill Simmons: Bill uses Mann as a benchmark for the film’s LA-crime style and prison obsessions. About 16 min favorableClint EastwoodBill Simmons: Bill recounts seeing him during an Alcatraz filming visit as a kid. About 16 min · medium confidenceneutralRoger EbertBill Simmons: Bill uses an AI-generated guess at what Ebert might have thought of the movie. About 24 min · medium confidence
8 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Shot Caller

Bill frames it as a tightly made prison thriller that fits Rock Bottom Month.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Shot Caller

CR likes it as a compelling prison movie with dual chronologies and strong rewatch value.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

prison movies

Bill loves prison movies for their hierarchy, slang, riots, and moral pressure-cooker setup.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLiked it

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

CR thinks Coster-Waldau’s performance works, even if the name is awkward and his accent is noticeable.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Jon Bernthal

Bill is delighted by Bernthal’s presence and treats him as an elite supporting-force in the movie.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The riot sequence

Bill thinks the riot is one of the movie’s best sequences, especially the shank preparation and chaos.

About 40 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Money's final showdown with the Beast

CR chooses the final cage showdown as his most rewatchable moment because of the visual impact and speed.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Shot Caller

Bill thinks the movie is a strong Netflix discovery title that will probably develop a cult tail.

About 56 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Prison as an alternate social order

The hosts emphasize prison hierarchy, numbers, respect, and institutional politics as its own economy.

Opening minutes

Identity transformation

Jacob’s transformation from stockbroker to prison power player mirrors his outside-world ambition.

Opening minutes

What-would-you-do survival fantasy

The movie works because it constantly asks how an ordinary person would survive inside prison.

Opening minutes

California crime / Michael Mann influence

The film is read as a cool California crime story with Mann-like visual and moral DNA.

About 8 min

Masculinity and hierarchy

The episode returns to toughness, status, loyalty, and how men perform power in prison.

About 8 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Rick Roman Waugh also wrote Den of Thieves.

About 8 min

Production note

The movie was shot in the same prison used for Waugh’s Felon.

About 24 min

Production note

Relativity Media reportedly bought the U.S. rights for $3 million and later went bankrupt, delaying the film’s release.

About 56 min

Production note

The film had no Roger Ebert review, so Bill asked ChatGPT to imagine one.

About 24 min

Mentioned with uncertainty

Bill claims Nikolaj Coster-Waldau’s name may have hurt his star potential.

About 24 min · medium confidence

Production note

Bill explains prison hierarchy terms like wood, Pen 1, Nazi lowrider, and Aryan Brotherhood.

About 56 min

Production note

Money’s prison bookshelf includes books like The Art of War and The Prince.

About 56 min

Production note

Bill says Eastern State Penitentiary was near where he grew up.

About 16 min

Oz

CR says Oz was his entry point into prison content.

About 8 min

Escape from Alcatraz

Referenced as an early prison movie and in Bill’s Alcatraz anecdote.

About 8 min

Papillon

Bill recalls it being on TV in his childhood prison-movie diet.

About 8 min

The Great Escape

Mentioned as a prison movie, though less harsh than modern ones.

About 8 min

Brubaker

Bill calls out the slow clap and Redford’s undercover prison job.

About 8 min

Shawshank Redemption

Central benchmark in the prison-movie pyramid and an example of rock bottom.

About 16 min

Cool Hand Luke

CR’s pick for the top prison movie in his personal ranking.

About 16 min

Den of Thieves

Used to compare Rick Roman Waugh’s crime-lane and LA style.

About 8 min

Collateral

Bill says Shot Caller feels like it is in the same LA visual lane.

About 8 min

Rounders

Bill uses it as an example of a movie that took time to become beloved.

About 56 min

Seven

CR references it as an example of a character getting caught on purpose.

About 48 min

The Dark Knight

Used to illustrate a villain engineering capture.

About 48 min

The Lord of the Rings / Game of Thrones

Bill jokes about Chris Ryan’s recent viewing and the show comparison.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

The Deer Hunter

Rick Roman Waugh reportedly compared Shot Caller’s structure to The Deer Hunter.

About 48 min

Triple Frontier

Bill says it is slowly becoming a future Rewatchables-type title.

About 56 min · medium confidence
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Prison-movie pyramid

Bill ranks prison movies in a tiered pyramid and places Shot Caller near the top tier.

About 16 min

Shot Caller vs. prison glossary

The hosts repeatedly define prison slang and hierarchy terms like wood, validated, and shot caller.

About 8 min

Wayne Jenkins / Bernthal comparison

Bernthal’s performance is repeatedly measured against his earlier police-scoundrel work.

About 32 min

AI Roger Ebert

Bill asks ChatGPT to simulate what Roger Ebert would have thought of the movie.

About 24 min

Cruise vs. Hanks lead casting game

The hosts imagine alternate lead casting and conclude Cruise would be the ideal version.

About 56 min

Bars network / prison-channel idea

Bill jokes about a prison-movie channel called Bars.

About 1:04

Bill Simmons

“butter in your ass, lollipops in your mouth”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“the beast lending library is open”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“you got your rules and we got the gang's rules”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“world went on without us, Holmes”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Don't you call me lady!”
About 48 min

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ON THE MIC

2 voices made the call

Bill Simmons headshotBill Simmons125 tracked appearances · 56 H / 64 C / 5 ties
Chris Ryan headshotChris Ryan77 tracked appearances · 36 H / 38 C / 3 ties

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