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THE REWATCHABLES · April 27, 2021

Predator

A 1987 action / sci-fi directed by John McTiernan, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionSci-fi1980sDirected by John McTiernan
Overall episode#200Source sheet order
Movie year19871980s
Tomatometer65%Critics’ score
Metacritic47View score
Roger Ebert3/4Original star rating
DirectorJohn McTiernanAction / Sci-fi

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode treats Predator as an almost ideal action movie: simple, primal, hyper-masculine, and endlessly rewatchable. The group admires its cast, score, effects, structure, and iconic one-liners, while also joking about its testosterone overload and 1980s excess.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Its simple premise and lack of mythology make it easy to jump into at any point. About 8 min
  2. 02The film stacks distinct, memorable characters in a mission-team format. About 8 min
  3. 03The movie delays a clear look at the Predator, building tension effectively. About 8 min
  4. 04The action scenes and one-liners are highly concentrated and instantly replayable. About 24 min
  5. 05The ending turns into a one-on-one survival fight that feels earned after the slaughter of the supporting cast. About 32 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorThe hostage subplot feels underused and oddly disconnected from the rest of the movie. About 48 min
  2. minorThe mud disguise is treated as a fun image, but Bill calls out its realism as a nitpick. About 56 min
  3. moderateThe late reveal and handling of the sequel franchise are viewed as inconsistent, especially Predator 2. About 16 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Dutch and Dylan's reunion handshake

The opening encounter between Arnold and Carl Weathers is treated as an iconic 80s action-movie greeting and insult exchange.

About 24 min
positive

Skin bodies in the trees

The reveal of the skinned corpses hanging in the jungle turns the movie from playful to terrifying.

About 24 min
Favorite

Hostage rescue and compound raid

The rescue sequence, with the truck lift, machine-gun barrage, and one-liners, is presented as a perfect seven-minute action burst.

About 24 min
Favorite

The team firing into the jungle

The extended gunfire into the jungle is praised as both visually satisfying and thematically smart, even though it accomplishes nothing.

About 32 min
positive

Billy's fear and stand-off

Billy's sense that something is wrong is treated as a key tension builder because he is the one man who seems truly rattled.

About 32 min
positive

Jesse Ventura's death

The chest-blast death is one of the film's most memorable over-the-top kills.

About 24 min
Favorite

Dutch versus the Predator finale

The final one-on-one battle is treated as the payoff to the whole movie's build.

About 40 min
mixed

Mud camouflage sequence

Arnold's mud disguise is admired as iconic but lightly mocked for abrupt continuity and realism issues.

About 32 min
Favorite

Final credits character montage

The end-credit shots of the cast posing to camera are loved as a ridiculous victory lap after all the carnage.

About 1:04

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:04

Whether Predator or T2 is Arnold Schwarzenegger's apex movie

Shea Serrano

Predator is better than T2.

Chris Ryan

Predator is Arnold movie apex but not Arnold himself apex.

Bill Simmons

Initially entertains the comparison, then sides with Predator as a pinnacle action entry.

No final agreement About 1:04

Who wins the movie

Kyle Brandt

Bill Duke/Mac wins because of the emotional arc.

Shea Serrano

Arnold wins because he is the star and the movie's center.

Chris Ryan

Carl Weathers or Sunny Landham is a plausible winner depending on emphasis.

No final agreement About 56 min

Best Dion Waiters candidate

Chris Ryan

Sunny Landham is the purest choice because of his outsized presence.

Kyle Brandt

Dylan/Carl Weathers has the strongest arc for the award.

Shea Serrano

Sunny Landham should get it.

They partly agreed About 48 min

Whether the hostage subplot works

Bill Simmons

The hostage feels underdeveloped and disconnected.

Shea Serrano

Her fear performance helps and she fits the movie's randomness.

Chris Ryan

She seems to be in a different movie.

They left it as a friendly argument About 56 min

Whether the mud disguise is realistic

Bill Simmons

It is a nitpick and the continuity is dubious.

Chris Ryan

The disguise is cool and part of the movie's mythic appeal.

12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableArnold SchwarzeneggerPraised as the star and embodiment of dead-serious 80s action cool; his physicality, one-liners, and final battle are repeatedly celebrated. Opening minutes favorableCarl WeathersSeen as an excellent foil/rat character who is still likable even after betraying the team. About 16 min very favorableBill DukePraised for intensity, fear, sprinting at the Predator, and carrying a full arc. About 32 min
very favorableSonny LandhamBeloved as a singular rugged presence; the panel repeatedly jokes he should have been in everything. About 24 min
favorableJesse VenturaEnjoyed as a loud, memorable action-movie personality whose line readings and death are iconic. About 40 min favorableJohn McTiernanPraised for making a simple, tense, and disciplined action-horror movie; his later Die Hard is mentioned as another peak. About 16 min neutralJoel SilverMentioned as producer of the film and a recurring action-movie figure in the podcast's coverage. About 16 min very favorableStan WinstonCredited with saving the movie's creature design after the original suit failed. About 48 min mixedJean-Claude Van DammeShea Serrano: Used as the famous failed first Predator casting choice and as part of the movie's production lore. About 8 min neutralRoger EbertHis three-star review is cited as evidence that the movie was recognized as an effective action film. About 16 min mixedShane BlackKyle Brandt: His sex jokes are mocked and also oddly celebrated as very 80s character flavor. About 40 min very favorableAlan SilvestriKyle Brandt: His score is praised as creepy, jungle-immersive, and essential to the movie's atmosphere. About 48 min
11 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Shea SerranoLoved it

Predator

Calls it his favorite action movie of all time and argues that no 10- to 15-second stretch is uninteresting.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Predator

Says it is glorious, metal, and essentially an 80s superhero movie with a Thanos-like villain.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Predator

Frames it as a simple, primal action-horror movie with no mythology baggage.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLiked it

the movie's seriousness and lack of love interest

Likes that the movie is dead serious Arnold rather than self-aware farce and notes the absence of a romance angle.

Opening minutes
Shea SerranoLoved it

the jungle creature reveal

Says the Predator reveal still works and that the face design is perfect.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

the kill sequences

Says the kills create real terror and make even the soldiers feel vulnerable.

About 16 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

John McTiernan's direction

Says McTiernan made a walk-off level run by following Predator with Die Hard.

About 16 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

the score

While Chris discusses the creature, Shea later nods along to the film's atmosphere and music as part of why the movie works so well.

About 48 min · medium confidence
Chris RyanLoved it

Sunny Landham

Argues Landham is an authentically rugged movie presence who improves anything he is in.

About 40 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Carl Weathers

Finds Weathers compelling as both a cool foil and a broken soldier whose arc matters.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Predator

Often endorses the others' enthusiasm and frames the film as a peak 80s testosterone movie.

Opening minutes
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Masculinity and testosterone

The panel repeatedly frames the film as the peak of 1980s macho action energy, with roided-out soldiers, sleeveless arms, and body butter.

Opening minutes

Team dynamics

The movie works like a carefully arranged squad-movie where each man fills a role and their deaths matter because the group is distinct.

About 8 min

Primal action-horror

The hosts keep returning to the idea that the film is part slasher movie, part action movie, with a horror structure underneath.

About 8 min

Practical effects and creature design

The Predator suit and reveal are praised as holding up extremely well and helping the movie remain effective.

About 8 min

80s excess

The discussion celebrates the film's big guns, bad jokes, explosive kills, and absurdly broad supporting cast as emblematic of the era.

About 24 min
24 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film reportedly cost $15 million and made about $98 million.

About 16 min

Production note

The movie spawned three sequels and two Alien vs. Predator films.

About 16 min

Production note

The original Predator suit failed and the production had to reshoot the final third with Stan Winston's redesign.

About 48 min

Production note

The jungle shoot was plagued by heat, bugs, diarrhea, and logistical problems.

About 48 min

Production note

The Predator's voice was designed using a gurgle inspired by a dying horseshoe crab.

About 56 min

Production note

The studio's insurer allegedly required a bodyguard for Sonny Landham.

About 56 min

Production note

The Predator is said to be on screen for only about eight minutes.

About 56 min

Production note

Arnold's Seiko diver's watch from the movie became nicknamed 'the Arnold.'

About 56 min

Production note

The crew originally considered the title Hunter.

About 56 min

Commando

Used as a comparison point for Arnold's action-star persona and 80s testosterone excess.

Opening minutes

The Avengers

Kyle compares Predator's ensemble to a superhero team movie.

Opening minutes

Die Hard

Cited as an equally influential and essential action movie.

Opening minutes

The Dirty Dozen

Mentioned as a direct predecessor to the men-on-a-mission structure.

About 8 min

The Professionals

Cited as another influence on the team-on-a-mission setup.

About 8 min

Alien

Used to describe the creature reveal and the movie's horror structure.

About 8 min

The Terminator

Referenced as part of Arnold's action-star run and a comparison for killer efficiency.

Opening minutes

Total Recall

Named as one of the best Arnold ensemble movies.

Opening minutes

Rocky IV

Used repeatedly for comparison in action-movie rivalry and death scenes.

About 16 min

Fast Five

Referenced as a modern testosterone-heavy ensemble and as part of the macho-action lineage.

Opening minutes

Predators

Shea cites it as a later sequel he liked better than Predator 2.

About 16 min

The Predator

Mentioned as the Shane Black-directed entry, ranked behind Predators but ahead of Predator 2 by Shea.

About 16 min

Aliens

Used to describe Carl Weathers' rat-character role as comparable to Paul Reiser's character.

About 16 min

Rambo: First Blood Part II

Referenced for another rat/authority figure and for making weapons in the jungle.

About 24 min

Top Gun

Mentioned as the previous year's version of the end-credit cast montage gag.

About 1:04
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Testosterone / body butter joke

The panel repeatedly jokes that the movie is so masculine it practically leaks testosterone and body butter.

Opening minutes

Sonny Landham as a legendary threat

They keep returning to stories and imagined scenarios where Landham would improve any movie and require a bodyguard.

About 40 min

WWE/UFC crossover casting

The hosts connect Ventura and later action-franchise casting habits to wrestling and combat-sports stars.

About 40 min

One-line read-alongs

The panel repeatedly quotes and riffs on classic Arnold and supporting-character lines.

About 24 min

Alpha-male wardrobe breakdown

Chris's breakdown of the chopper wardrobe becomes a mini-bit about each man's outfit matching his persona.

About 40 min

Shea Serrano

“Predator fucking rules.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“What's the matter, Dylan?”
About 24 min

Speaker not identified

“I ain't got time to bleed.”
About 40 min

Speaker not identified

“Get to the chopper!”
About 32 min

Speaker not identified

“If it bleeds, we can kill it.”
About 40 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

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UNITED STATES

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