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THE REWATCHABLES · January 14, 2019

Old School

A 2003 comedy directed by Todd Phillips, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

Comedy2000sDirected by Todd Phillips
Overall episode#55Source sheet order
Movie year20032000s
Tomatometer60%Critics’ score
Metacritic54View score
Roger Ebert1/4Original star rating
DirectorTodd PhillipsComedy

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Old School is a key early-2000s R-rated comedy that helped launch Will Ferrell as a movie star and set the template for the frat-pack era. The hosts mostly celebrate how aggressively funny, quotable, and rewatchable it is, while noting a few aging issues around the Elisha Cuthbert storyline and some stunt casting.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Frank the Tank’s full resurgence and the streaking sequence are treated as the movie’s signature payoff. About 16 min
  2. 02The opening kitchen/fraternity setup with earmuffs and the hockey stick is seen as a perfect introduction to the movie’s comic world. About 16 min
  3. 03The birthday party with dart guns and the repeated gift of the bread maker is highlighted as a dense joke sequence. About 16 min
  4. 04The wedding toast and the Dan Band performance are cited as classic set pieces that reward repeat viewing. About 56 min
  5. 05Closing credits extend the comedy with story beats and extra gags. About 32 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe Elisha Cuthbert romance is awkward because Luke Wilson’s character is involved with a high school girl and later the movie asks the audience to accept him as a stepfather figure. About 56 min
  2. moderateCraig Kilborn’s acting is weak, even if the stunt casting works as a novelty. About 32 min
  3. minorArtie Lange and James Carville feel like odd, somewhat misused comic-cameo choices. About 32 min
  4. minorThe plot’s competition/back-half escalation resembles other campus comedies and slightly overcomplicates the premise. About 40 min · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

positive

Opening breakup/homecoming

Luke Wilson returns home to find Juliette Lewis with multiple people in the bathroom, instantly setting the film’s tone.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Kitchen introduction / earmuffs

The first hangout scene with the hockey stick and the earmuffs gag is treated as iconic.

About 16 min
Favorite

Frank the Tank at Mitchapalooza

Frank’s drunken return and the streaking run are seen as the movie’s biggest set-piece payoff.

About 16 min
Favorite

Birthday party / dart gun / bread maker

The birthday-party chaos, including the re-gifted bread maker and dart guns, is singled out as a dense joke run.

About 16 min
Favorite

Blue’s wrestling death and funeral

Blue’s absurd death during the KY wrestling match and the aftermath are treated as a major comic beat.

About 16 min
positive

Wedding toast and Dan Band performance

The wedding scene works because of the disastrous toast and the swearing wedding band.

About 56 min
positive

TSA frisking / post-9-11 airport joke

Luke Wilson disrobing during TSA screening is cited as a joke that aged well.

About 32 min
Favorite

Craig Kilborn closing-credits crash

The ending credits continue the story with Kilborn and Piven crashing and dying, extending the comedy after the film proper.

About 32 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 16 min

Most rewatchable scene

Bill Simmons

Leans toward Frank the Tank’s resurgence and the streaking sequence, while acknowledging other contenders.

Chris Ryan

Prefers the hockey-stick kitchen scene.

Sean Fennessey

Also supports the Frank the Tank streaking stretch as a top candidate.

They partly agreed About 32 min

What aged the worst

Bill Simmons

Flags Elisha Cuthbert’s age-related storyline and some stunt-casting as the main problem.

Chris Ryan

Questions whether the issue is offensiveness or mere antiquation.

No final agreement About 1:04

Luke Wilson’s career level

Bill Simmons

Argues Wilson is not very good and benefited from timing and better collaborators.

Sean Fennessey

Sees Wilson as a useful everyman who works well in this role.

Chris Ryan

Jokes that Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, prompting pushback.

They partly agreed About 40 min

Whether a sequel was desirable

Bill Simmons

Would have preferred an Old School sequel over some other comedy sequels.

Sean Fennessey

Says he would not really want Old School 2, though he notes the script existed.

16 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableWill FerrellBill Simmons: Presented as the movie’s breakout star and one of the great comedy stars of the century. Opening minutes favorableTodd PhillipsBill Simmons: Praised as a smart comic director and talent spotter who later became hugely successful. About 32 min very favorableVince VaughnBill Simmons: Viewed as one of the film’s funniest elements and a major force in its quotability. About 8 min mixedLuke WilsonBill Simmons: Seen as good in the role but also the subject of a debate over whether he was miscast or overvalued. About 1:04 very favorableJuliette LewisBill Simmons: Praised as one of the movie’s biggest heat checks and a standout comic presence. About 40 min favorableJeremy PivenBill Simmons: His pre-Entourage scene work is admired, though his appearance is also part of the movie’s aging discussion. About 16 min
mixedCraig KilbornBill Simmons: A memorable stunt-casting choice whose acting is mocked but whose presence is liked as a comic novelty. About 32 min
favorableSnoop DoggBill Simmons: His performance is cited as a strong snapshot of a specific moment in his career. About 24 min
mixedElisha CuthbertBill Simmons: Liked as charming, but her storyline is the main aging problem discussed. About 24 min
favorableSean William ScottBill Simmons: His brief appearance as Peppers is treated as a strong comic heat-check. About 40 min favorableBrian CallanBill Simmons: Mentioned as a funny supporting player whose career should have gone farther. About 40 min
favorablePatrick CranshawBill Simmons: Remembered fondly for Blue, which the hosts treat as one of the film’s iconic comic roles. About 40 min
criticalRoger EbertBill Simmons: Used as a foil for bad comedy criticism after he panned the movie. About 24 min favorableIvan ReitmanBill Simmons: Cited as an influence through the older frat-comedy tradition Phillips is said to inherit. About 8 min favorableAdam McKayBill Simmons: Referenced as part of the broader comedy ecosystem and Ferrell’s development. Opening minutes · medium confidenceneutralBill HaderBill Simmons: Mentioned only as the source of a James Carville impression on SNL. About 32 min · medium confidence
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Old School as an R-rated comedy

Says the movie is simply funny and should be judged in its own era rather than by modern standards.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Will Ferrell

Argues Ferrell’s performance here helped define the later Ferrell comic persona.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Todd Phillips

Credits Phillips with a strong directing career and a knack for spotting the right comedic players.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Frank the Tank streaking sequence

Treats the streaking stretch as a definitive comedy payoff.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

opening wedding / porch-to-bedroom setup

Likes the opening domestic betrayal setup as a strong comic launchpad.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Vince Vaughn

Calls Vaughn’s performance one of his best and the source of many quotable lines.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Luke Wilson

Thinks Wilson is solid here but not an elite movie star and later argues about his ceiling.

About 1:04
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Old School

Frames the film as an important bridge between earlier frat comedies and the later Apatow era.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Luke Wilson

Defends Wilson as a good comic everyman with a specific hangdog quality.

About 1:04
Chris RyanLoved it

hockey stick / earmuffs introduction

Prefers the early kitchen scene for how it immediately defines the movie’s comic tone.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Juliette Lewis

Supports her as the Deion Waiters-style heat check performer.

About 40 min
Chris RyanMixed

Luke Wilson

Engages the debate over Wilson’s range and whether he could have done more in the role.

About 1:04
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Frat-pack / R-rated comedy boom

The hosts place Old School inside a larger cycle of R-rated, male-bonding comedies from the early 2000s that revived a 1980s-style raunchy template.

Opening minutes

Will Ferrell’s breakthrough

The episode frames the movie as the turning point that turned Ferrell from a sketch player/cameo comic into a bankable movie star.

Opening minutes

Todd Phillips as a talent spotter

Phillips is praised for identifying the right comedic performers at the right time and building a career around rowdy male chaos.

About 32 min

College nostalgia and arrested development

The movie’s appeal is tied to grown men trying to recapture college behavior while still being adults in crisis.

Opening minutes

Comedy aging and cultural memory

The conversation repeatedly asks which jokes still play, which characters aged poorly, and how some lines entered everyday speech.

About 16 min
22 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Old School was released in 2003 and made about $76 million domestic on a $24 million budget.

Opening minutes

Production note

Todd Phillips earlier made the documentaries Hated and Frat House and worked on Taxicab Confessions.

About 8 min

Production note

The Dan Band had appeared in multiple Todd Phillips projects.

About 24 min

Production note

Will Ferrell ran naked for real during the streaking scene and had to get drunk for one of the takes.

About 32 min

Production note

Patrick Cranshaw had acted for decades and later played the sheriff in Air Bud films.

About 40 min

Production note

The house used for the fraternity scenes is a real Pasadena residence on Bushnell Avenue and was used in several Michael J. Fox movies.

About 32 min

Production note

A sequel titled Old School Dose was written but not made because Ferrell and Vaughn passed.

About 40 min

Production note

The hosts revisit their prior Godfather fact-check segment and correct the Long Island compound location discussion.

About 1:04

Animal House

Used as a foundational frat-comedy comparison and a template for the film’s raunchy approach.

Opening minutes

Stripes

Mentioned among the 80s comedies that mixed nudity and rowdy male behavior.

Opening minutes

Caddyshack

Named as another classic raunch-comedy predecessor.

Opening minutes

Revenge of the Nerds

Cited as another campus comedy with nudity and broad humor.

Opening minutes

Road Trip

Discussed as Todd Phillips’s earlier narrative feature and a precursor to Old School.

About 8 min

Swingers

Referenced when discussing Vince Vaughn’s comedy persona and career trajectory.

About 8 min

Dodgeball

Cited as part of Vaughn’s later comedy run and the broader comedy boom.

About 8 min

Starsky and Hutch

Used as an example of a remake/parody comedy that did not work well.

About 8 min

The Hangover

Referenced as Phillips’s later hit and as the film whose closing credits became a gold standard.

About 32 min

Wayne’s World 2

Offered as an example of a good comedy sequel.

About 40 min

Porky’s

Mentioned as a possible example of a closing-credits blooper reel.

About 24 min · medium confidence

The Godfather

The hosts reference their prior episode and a correction segment about the compound/Long Island.

About 1:04

The Big Picture

Sean plugs his podcast at the end.

About 40 min

True Detective

Chris plugs his aftershow and the hosts joke about his involvement.

About 40 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Earmuffs

A recurring gag where someone says 'earmuffs' before profanity, which the hosts note has entered everyday speech.

About 16 min

You’re my boy, Blue

Blue’s nickname becomes a recurring quoted line and an emblem of the film’s lasting catchphrases.

About 40 min

The Dan Band swearing wedding songs

The wedding-band performance is treated as a running comic set piece that keeps escalating.

About 56 min

Craig Kilborn as stunt casting

Kilborn’s presence becomes a joke about whether a TV host can act and whether the cameo is funny despite the performance.

About 32 min

Closing-credits epilogue

The end credits themselves function as an extra comic scene, especially with Kilborn and Piven crashing.

About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“We're going streaking!”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“Earmuffs. Then you can say fuck, shit, bitch”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“You're my boy, Blue”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“Sometimes you think you have true love”
About 56 min

Bill Simmons

“I know a great sand guy”
About 48 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Old School is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Old School, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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