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THE REWATCHABLES · August 20, 2019

Fatal Attraction

A 1987 thriller / drama / erotic directed by Adrian Lyne, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ThrillerDramaErotic1980sDirected by Adrian Lyne
Overall episode#92Source sheet order
Movie year19871980s
Tomatometer74%Critics’ score
Metacritic67View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorAdrian LyneThriller / Drama / Erotic

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode treats Fatal Attraction as a hugely influential 1980s erotic thriller that is both an entertaining thriller and a morally loaded story about adultery, control, and punishment. The hosts praise its pace, casting, and famous set pieces while debating the ending, Alex Forrest’s psychology, and the movie’s misogyny and cultural legacy.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The sink-sex scene is singled out as a meticulously staged, unforgettable set piece. About 40 min
  2. 02The movie is tight and never dull despite mostly using the same settings and characters. About 8 min
  3. 03Glenn Close’s performance and physical command make Alex Forrest mesmerizing and rewatchable. About 8 min
  4. 04The film’s famous ending and the original/reshot-ending debate keep it memorable and discussable. About 32 min
  5. 05Michael Douglas’s persona in the film provides a highly watchable mix of smugness, panic, and desire. About 16 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe original ending and reshoot are seen by some as undermining character and plausibility. About 24 min
  2. moderateAlex’s psychological arc can feel abrupt or underdeveloped. About 48 min
  3. moderateThe movie’s treatment of women and its broader misogyny are uneasy and dated. About 40 min
  4. minorDan Gallagher is a terrible pet owner and behaves irresponsibly throughout. About 1:12

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

positive

Party meet-cute

Dan and Alex meet at the party, establishing the flirtation and class/sexual tension that drives the story.

Opening minutes
positive

Dinner negotiation about the affair

Alex calmly frames the affair as an adult choice, which both hosts see as a key setup for the movie’s tension.

About 40 min
Favorite

Sink sex scene

The hosts obsess over the strange choreography, water, dishes, and post-coital confidence in the sink sequence.

About 40 min
Favorite

Elevator blowjob

Cited as another iconic, overtly physical seduction scene that demonstrates Alex’s control and energy.

About 48 min
mixed

Dog park date

Dan brings his dog to meet Alex, which the hosts treat as a bizarre but crucial sign of bad judgment and foreshadowing.

About 48 min
Favorite

Real-estate visit / 'I'm not going to be ignored'

Alex shows up at Dan’s home and delivers the famous confrontation that turns her into an unforgettable threat.

About 48 min
mixed

Suicide attempt and wrist-slitting turn

They see this as a dramatic turning point that some find abrupt and psychologically underdeveloped.

About 48 min
critical

Final bathtub confrontation

The ending is treated as iconic but divisive, with the hosts debating whether the reshot version is cathartic or manipulative.

About 32 min
critical

Volvo acid attack / bunny aftermath

The attacks on the car and rabbit are remembered as the film’s most shocking cruelty and as a major reason audiences turned against Alex.

About 1:04
mixed

Family-house finale

The last image of the reunited family is viewed as the movie restoring order and explaining the reshot ending’s appeal.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 24 min

Whether the reshot ending improves the movie

Bill Simmons

Believes the theatrical ending helped make the film a huge hit because audiences wanted Alex punished.

Wesley Morris

Thinks the original ending is more psychologically coherent but concedes the reshot version provided catharsis.

Mallory Rubin

Emphasizes the ending as a control-and-punishment issue rather than pure plot logic.

No final agreement About 48 min

Whether Alex is mentally ill or a fully legible human being

Wesley Morris

Says the wrist-slitting and behavior suggest mental illness or at least need more explanation.

Bill Simmons

Keeps her in the realm of a dangerous but effective thriller antagonist.

Mallory Rubin

Insists the movie works because Alex is forceful and serious, not merely cartoonish.

They partly agreed About 40 min

Who the movie really punishes: Alex, Dan, or the family unit

Wesley Morris

Argues the film is more about audience desire for Alex’s punishment than Dan’s accountability.

Bill Simmons

Focuses on how the movie scared people about cheating and framed the affair as a warning.

Mallory Rubin

Points to Beth’s perspective and the family-home threat as central to the emotional payoff.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableGlenn CloseBill Simmons: Praised as a star-making, intensely physical performance; also discussed as someone who fought the ending and has an iconic career. About 16 min very favorableMichael DouglasWesley Morris: Held up as the perfect magnetic-repellent leading man whose run from the mid-80s to the late-90s was extraordinary. About 16 min
very favorableAnne ArcherMallory Rubin: Admired as the perfect wife figure whose normalcy and warmth make the betrayal more painful. About 24 min
favorableAdrian LyneWesley Morris: Praised as a sensation-building filmmaker whose strengths are pleasure, conflict, and commercial erotic thrillers. About 32 min neutralRoger EbertBill Simmons: Cited for his mixed review criticizing the ending as implausible. About 24 min neutralClint EastwoodWesley Morris: Mentioned as the star of Play Misty for Me, a clear precursor to Fatal Attraction. About 40 min neutralJodie FosterWesley Morris: Mentioned only in relation to Glenn Close losing an Oscar for The Accused. About 1:20 neutralCherBill Simmons: Referenced as the 1987 Best Actress winner for Moonstruck in an awards rundown. About 32 min favorableHolly HunterBill Simmons: Mentioned as a strong Best Actress nominee for Broadcast News. About 32 min neutralSharon StoneBill Simmons: Named as an early candidate for Alex Forrest, which the hosts say would have changed later career history. About 56 min neutralSally FieldBill Simmons: Mentioned as another casting possibility for Alex Forrest. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralKirstie AlleyBill Simmons: Named as another possible Alex Forrest candidate. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralEmma ThompsonBill Simmons: Listed among actresses considered for Alex Forrest. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralChristopher ReeveBill Simmons: Mentioned as having turned down the Dan Gallagher role. About 1:04 neutralAndie MacDowellBill Simmons: Named as a consideration for Beth Gallagher. About 1:04 neutralBrian De PalmaBill Simmons: Mentioned as having signed on briefly before departing because he wanted Michael Douglas out. About 1:04 neutralJohn CarpenterBill Simmons: Named as another director considered before Lyne remained attached. About 1:04 · medium confidenceneutralSherry LansingBill Simmons: Cited as one of the producers who initially doubted Glenn Close’s sex appeal for the part. About 16 min neutralStanley JaffeBill Simmons: Also identified as part of the team doubting Close’s casting fit. About 16 min
15 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Fatal Attraction as a culture-shifting adultery thriller

Argues the movie terrified audiences about cheating and became one of the most influential 1980s thrillers.

Opening minutes
Wesley MorrisLoved it

The movie’s commercial and genre effect

Frames it as the mainstream return of the adult sexual thriller with a clear, efficient engine.

About 8 min
Mallory RubinLoved it

Sink sex scene

Treats the sink-sex sequence as bizarre, riveting, and methodically staged.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Glenn Close as Alex Forrest

Sees Close as a star-making force of nature who convinces viewers she is alluring and dangerous.

About 16 min
Wesley MorrisLoved it

Michael Douglas as a movie star

Argues Douglas is the kind of effortless, complicated movie star modern Hollywood no longer produces.

About 16 min
Mallory RubinLoved it

Anne Archer

Treats Archer as the perfect, almost idealized wife whose presence sharpens the betrayal.

About 24 min
Wesley MorrisMixed

The changed ending

Accepts that the reshot ending helped the movie commercially while still implying it compromises the character.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Adrian Lyne’s erotic-thriller filmmaking

Credits Lyne with understanding how to build sensation and audience pleasure.

About 32 min
Mallory RubinLoved it

Beth Gallagher

Defends Beth as a blameless, nearly perfect wife rather than a problem in the triangle.

About 56 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Dan Gallagher

Finds Dan magnetic but irresponsible, especially as a bad pet owner and weak husband.

About 1:12
Wesley MorrisMixed

The film’s misogyny and gender politics

Argues the movie is richer than a simple villain story but still shaped by male-authored assumptions.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Alex’s office confrontation: 'I'm not going to be ignored'

Treats the line as an iconic and terrifying declaration that forces Dan to take her seriously.

About 56 min
Mallory RubinLoved it

Fatal Attraction as a thriller

Says the film is rewatchable because it is suspenseful, compact, and full of memorable moments.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Quincy the dog

Keeps returning to the dog as an emotional center and comic casualty of Dan’s behavior.

About 40 min
Wesley MorrisMixed

The original ending versus the reshoot

Thinks the original ending is more psychologically satisfying but recognizes the theatrical ending explains the movie’s success.

About 32 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Adultery and consequence

The affair functions as a warning story about cheating, but also as a fantasy of consequence and temptation.

About 8 min

Control and agency

The hosts repeatedly return to who controls the narrative, the relationship, and the punishment.

About 32 min

From-hell genre influence

The film is framed as the template for later 'blank from hell' thrillers.

About 8 min

Sex as thriller fuel

They stress that the film revived adult sex-based suspense for mainstream audiences.

About 8 min

Classical thriller craft with 1980s surface gloss

The movie is discussed as Hitchcock-like on the surface but simpler and more direct in psychology.

About 8 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film was the highest-grossing movie of 1987 and reportedly made about $320 million on a $14 million budget.

About 32 min

Production note

The movie received Oscar nominations for Best Picture, Actress, Supporting Actress, Director, Screenplay, and Editing.

About 32 min

Production note

The original ending had Alex die by suicide and frame Dan, with a tape exposing her motive.

About 32 min

Production note

The reshoot of the ending cost about $1.3 million.

About 32 min

Production note

Glenn Close reportedly researched the role with psychiatrists and fought the ending for two weeks.

About 32 min

Production note

Close said in 2008 that men still tell her she scared them or saved their marriages.

About 1:20

Production note

The transcript claims Close was dunked underwater more than 50 times for one scene and later had a concussion during reshoots.

About 1:20

Production note

Close was reportedly pregnant during the reshoot period, and her daughter was conceived during production.

About 1:20

Production note

The film’s working title was 'Diversion.'

About 1:20

Production note

Bill says the movie’s plot template spawned the whole 'from hell' subgenre.

About 8 min

Jagged Edge

Used as a comparison point for Glenn Close playing another legal/romantic thriller role.

Opening minutes

Jaws

Bill compares the audience’s response to Alex to the shark in Jaws.

About 24 min

Play Misty for Me

Cited as an earlier precursor to the 'blank from hell' thriller pattern.

About 40 min

The World According to Garp

Mentioned as one of Glenn Close’s earlier Oscar-nominated roles.

About 16 min

The Big Chill

Also cited as an early Glenn Close role and Oscar nomination.

About 16 min

The Natural

Another Glenn Close role used to show her pre-Fatal Attraction image.

About 16 min

The War of the Roses

Used to discuss Michael Douglas’s persona and his tendency to star in competitive marriage movies.

About 16 min

Basic Instinct

Mentioned as another Douglas-led erotic thriller and as a possible alternate casting history with Sharon Stone.

About 16 min

Dangerous Liaisons

Referenced as Glenn Close’s later performance that the hosts think may be her best film work.

About 1:12

Moonstruck

Used in the Oscars discussion as Cher’s winning film.

About 32 min

Broadcast News

Referenced in the same Best Actress Oscars rundown for Holly Hunter.

About 32 min

The Accused

Referenced because Jodie Foster beat Glenn Close for an Oscar.

About 1:20

Nine and a Half Weeks

Cited as another Adrian Lyne erotic thriller and a precursor to Fatal Attraction.

About 32 min

Lolita

Mentioned as another Adrian Lyne project that continues his taboo-sex pattern.

About 32 min

The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance

An ad break reference, not part of the film discussion.

About 1:04 · low confidence
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

From Hell movie trope

The hosts repeatedly riff on Fatal Attraction as the prototype for later 'from hell' thrillers.

About 8 min

Dog judgment / Quincy sympathy

They keep returning to the dog as the most innocent and emotionally mistreated character.

About 24 min

Bill’s Glenn Close devotion

Bill repeatedly identifies Close as his favorite actress and returns to her career milestones.

About 16 min

Frame-by-frame sink-sex analysis

Mallory and Bill obsess over the exact water, dish, and body choreography in the sink scene.

About 40 min

Petty pet-owner accounting

Bill itemizes Dan’s dog neglect, spaghetti feeding, and bunny catastrophe like an indictment.

About 1:12

Michael Douglas as the imperfect everyman

Wesley and Bill keep using Douglas as the template for a flawed, magnetic male star type.

About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“I'm not going to be ignored, Dan.”
About 48 min

Wesley Morris

“It's a really entertaining two hours.”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“Don't cheat with a crazy person”
Opening minutes

Mallory Rubin

“I don't think having dinner with anybody is a crime.”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“You will not be ignored.”
About 56 min

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