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THE REWATCHABLES · February 18, 2019

Dave

A 1993 comedy / romance directed by Ivan Reitman, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ComedyRomance1990sDirected by Ivan Reitman
Overall episode#60Source sheet order
Movie year19931990s
Tomatometer95%Critics’ score
Metacritic76View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorIvan ReitmanComedy / Romance

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Dave is an unusually warm, earnest, and politically optimistic comedy that still plays beautifully because of Kevin Kline, Ivan Reitman, and a strong supporting cast. The hosts treat it as a rare light comedy with ideas, while also poking at its implausibilities and politics.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Kevin Kline's centered, flexible performance makes the ridiculous premise feel believable and charming. Opening minutes
  2. 02The movie's earnest, Capra-like tone gives it a rare, easy-to-watch warmth. Opening minutes
  3. 03The budget-balancing speech and cabinet sequence is satisfying wish-fulfillment comedy. Opening minutes
  4. 04The Ving Rhames friendship arc gives the movie emotional pay-off. Opening minutes
  5. 05The 1993-specific cameos and political references make the movie feel of its moment in a good way. Opening minutes

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorThe first 15-25 minutes are weaker than the rest of the film. Opening minutes
  2. minorJay Leno's cameo joke lands poorly. Opening minutes
  3. moderateThe body-double / secret affair setup and related logistics are implausible. Opening minutes
  4. moderateThe job-guarantee speech and budget fix are politically unrealistic. Opening minutes
  5. minorCharles Grodin's performance feels odd and possibly overdone. Opening minutes

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

positive

Dave first takes Mitchell's place

The setup where Dave becomes the president's stand-in is treated as a clever, funny premise launch.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Budget-balancing meeting

Dave quickly identifies waste, challenges spending, and gets the cabinet cheering when the numbers work.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Homeless shelter singalong

Dave and the first lady perform 'Tomorrow' and a Club Med routine with surprising emotional payoff.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Ving Rhames friendship payoff

The emotional speech 'I would have taken a bullet for you' is highlighted as the movie's peak friendship moment.

Opening minutes
positive

Cameo montage and political TV montage

The McLaughlin Group, real senators, and the Orioles throw create a very 1993 montage atmosphere.

Opening minutes
mixed

Budget speech on jobs

Dave's 'everyone gets a job' speech is inspiring but politically dubious.

Opening minutes

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Is the budget-fix speech politically believable?

Bill Simmons

It feels absurdly easy, but the movie makes the idea emotionally satisfying.

Sean Fennessey

The speech works dramatically even if the policy is not realistic.

Amanda Dobbins

The film can make public office feel simple and hopeful, which is part of its point.

No final agreement Opening minutes

Could the movie be remade now as a series?

Bill Simmons

He thinks it could be done as a series or modernized in a Trump-era way.

Sean Fennessey

He thinks the movie works best as a film and would feel too different as a series.

Amanda Dobbins

She favors the film's specific optimistic tone and politics rather than a darker adaptation.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableKevin KlineBill Simmons: Praised as uniquely suited to the role and one of the hosts' favorite actors. Opening minutes favorableSigourney WeaverBill Simmons: Discussed mainly as the first lady and romantic counterpart to Kline's Dave. Opening minutes very favorableIvan ReitmanBill Simmons: Credited for the film's tone and for a strong run of crowd-pleasing 80s/early-90s films. Opening minutes
favorableGary RossBill Simmons: Mentioned as a writer who came from the Dukakis campaign and wrote Big and Dave. Opening minutes
favorableFrank LangellaSean Fennessey: Praised as a theatrical, high-energy villain who dials up Bob Alexander. Opening minutes favorableVing RhamesBill Simmons: Praised for playing straight and for his emotional bond with Dave. Opening minutes mixedCharles GrodinBill Simmons: Seen as useful skepticism in the story, but his performance and hair are questioned. Opening minutes neutralLaura LinneyBill Simmons: Mentioned as the secretary whose affair triggers the president's stroke. Opening minutes · medium confidenceneutralBen KingsleyBill Simmons: Listed among the strong cast. Opening minutes
criticalJay LenoBill Simmons: Used as an example of a weak cameo/joke. Opening minutes
mixedBill ClintonBill Simmons: Discussed as a political context for the film's innocence and marriage optics. Opening minutes neutralGeorge H. W. BushBill Simmons: Cited as a likely model for President Mitchell's blank bureaucratic style. Opening minutes favorableBarack ObamaBill Simmons: Quoting Kline, the hosts cite Obama as saying he loves the film when depressed. Opening minutes · medium confidencefavorableOliver StoneBill Simmons: Highlighted as a particularly funny cameo. Opening minutes
neutralTip O'NeillBill Simmons: Listed among the film's cameos. Opening minutes
neutralArnold SchwarzeneggerBill Simmons: Mentioned as one of the film's cameos and as an unreal casting possibility. Opening minutes favorableKevin DunnBill Simmons: Praised as a great 'that guy' performer with a long supporting-career résumé. Opening minutes favorableBonnie HuntBill Simmons: Highlighted for a funny cameo in the White House walk-and-talk scenes. Opening minutes
neutralBill MitchellThe film's sitting president, a troubled and deceptive public figure. Opening minutes
14 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Dave

Calls the movie possibly one of the best ever and says it is exceptionally satisfying, innocent, and easy to watch.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Dave

Says the movie feels like a Frank Capra film and praises its light comedy and earnestness.

Opening minutes
Amanda DobbinsLiked it

political innocence

Argues the movie shaped a generation's sense of politics and institutions.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Kevin Kline

Argues Kline is uniquely capable of balancing earnestness, comedy, romance, and presidential authority.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Kevin Kline

Agrees that Kline is one of a kind and perhaps at his best in Dave.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

budget-balancing speech

Calls the budget-cut sequence one of the greatest scenes in movie history.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

male friendship reconciliation

Says the 'I would have taken a bullet for you' scene is the film's emotional peak.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Frank Langella

Loves Langella's theatrical villain turn and thinks he deserves special praise for the role.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyMixed

Charles Grodin

Feels Grodin is useful as the skeptical observer but not fully convincing.

Opening minutes
Amanda DobbinsLiked it

Tomorrow / Club Med singalong

Says the hokey musical scene works emotionally and comedically despite her dislike of live singing.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

club med / shelter singalong

Also cites the children's shelter singalong as a favorite because of how well the actors sell it.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

cameos

Loves the 1993 cameos and says they help the movie feel of its time in a good way.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Ivan Reitman

Credits Reitman for sustaining a remarkable run of crowd-pleasing hits and for nailing the tone here.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

job-finding speech

Acknowledges the jobs speech is unrealistic but still emotionally effective.

Opening minutes
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Politics as optimistic fantasy

The film imagines government as humane, practical, and capable of doing good if stripped of vanity and corruption.

Opening minutes

Presidential image and public-private split

The hosts focus on marriage performance, staged appearances, and the public persona of presidents and first ladies.

Opening minutes

Capra-style innocence

Reitman's goal of making a sweet, old-fashioned political comedy is treated as central to the film's success.

Opening minutes

Performance as legitimacy

The movie suggests that a decent person with the right manner can make power feel better, even if the setup is absurd.

Opening minutes

1990s political innocence

The conversation frames the movie as pre-internet and pre-modern political cynicism, when institutions felt more believable.

Opening minutes
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Gary Ross wrote the script while working on the Michael Dukakis campaign.

Opening minutes

Production note

The film's Oval Office set was reused more than 25 times.

Opening minutes

Production note

Ivan Reitman's wife and son appear as Nance's wife and son at the end.

Opening minutes

Production note

A musical version of Dave opened in 2018.

Opening minutes

Production note

The hosts say the film's premise was nearly a Robin Williams vehicle and nearly starred Warren Beatty or Kevin Costner.

Opening minutes

Production note

Bill Clinton reportedly gave Gary Ross a framed script with a handwritten note praising the film.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

Mentioned with uncertainty

The film's body-double premise is linked in the discussion to the idea of presidential impersonation and old-security practices.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

Production note

The discussion cites Woodrow Wilson's incapacitation and Edith Wilson's role as a historical parallel.

Opening minutes

The American President

Used as a comparison point for shaping political beliefs and presidential idealism.

Opening minutes

The West Wing

Referenced as part of a generation's political imagination and as a comparison for White House interiors.

Opening minutes

Frank Capra

Used to describe the film's old-fashioned, hopeful tone.

Opening minutes

Clinton era

Used as shorthand for political innocence and public scrutiny of presidential marriages.

Opening minutes

George H. W. Bush

Suggested as a model for President Mitchell's bland political style.

Opening minutes

Dick Cheney

Used to describe Bob Alexander as a power-hoarding chief of staff type.

Opening minutes

McLaughlin Group

Part of the film's early-90s TV and political-media texture.

Opening minutes

Camden Yards

Referenced in the baseball-throw scene and as a period-specific sports setting.

Opening minutes

The Big Chill

Used to discuss Kevin Kline's career and likability.

Opening minutes

A Fish Called Wanda

Referenced as Kline's Oscar-winning role and comparison point.

Opening minutes

Ghostbusters

Part of Ivan Reitman's hit run.

Opening minutes

Kindergarten Cop

Part of the Reitman run leading into Dave.

Opening minutes

Advise and Consent

Cited as an example of a more cynical DC political movie.

Opening minutes

The Best Man

Another cynical political-film comparison.

Opening minutes

Failsafe

Referenced as a serious political movie example.

Opening minutes
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

You're lint / you're a flea / you're a blip

The hosts repeatedly quote and enjoy Bob Alexander's insult to Dave.

Opening minutes

Best movie ever / Godfather II or Dave

The opening exaggeration that Dave might be one of the greatest movies ever becomes a recurring joke.

Opening minutes

Kevin Kline career obsession

The hosts keep circling back to Kline's singular career and likability.

Opening minutes

Charles Grodin hair watch

They repeatedly joke about Grodin's wig and fuller-than-expected hair.

Opening minutes

Budget math as political fantasy

They keep playfully probing whether the budget scene means governance is actually that easy.

Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“You're lint. You're a flea. You're a blip.”
Opening minutes

Sean Fennessey

“I would have taken a bullet for you.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“Everyone gets a job.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“Why can't you die from a stroke”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“I wish it was you.”
Opening minutes · medium confidence

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Dave is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Dave, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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