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THE REWATCHABLES · February 24, 2025

Crash

A 2004 drama / crime movie directed by Paul Haggis—and decision no. 44 in the Hanks–Cruise tape.

DramaCrime2000sDirected by Paul Haggis
Crash2004MOVIE
Podcast episode#383No. 394 overall
Movie year20042000s release
Tomatometer73%No. 72 of 128 tracked
Metacritic66View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
State of the raceHanks led by 424–20 · 0 ties

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts argue that Crash is a highly watchable but deeply ham-fisted, absurdly overblown race movie that became famous largely because it shockingly beat Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture. They treat it as both a serious culture artifact and an inadvertent comedy, while debating whether it is more a “hate watch” or a social experiment that exposes 2005-era liberal racism and Oscar politics.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01A few individual scenes are strongly acted and memorable, especially the Cheadle/Fichtner office scene and the Michael Peña father-daughter/locksmith material. About 40 min
  2. 02Its outsize reputation makes it a rewarding hate-watch and a time-capsule of pre-social-media Oscar discourse. About 8 min
  3. 03The cast is full of recognizable stars at interesting career moments, which creates nostalgic value. Opening minutes

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe movie is relentlessly on-the-nose and lacks nuance, making its racial commentary feel cartoonish. About 16 min
  2. majorIts ending and hero-turn resolutions are implausible and emotionally manipulative. About 16 min
  3. moderateSeveral characters are portrayed as grotesque caricatures rather than real people. About 16 min
  4. moderateThe editing and scene transitions are clumsy. About 56 min · medium confidence
  5. moderateRyan Phillippe is miscast in the young-cop role. About 56 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

mixed

Opening carjacking and racial banter

The Ludacris/companion opening is cited as attention-grabbing and structurally important even if broad.

About 16 min
critical

Sandra Bullock stair fall

Used as an example of the movie’s overblown, almost comedic symbolism.

About 8 min
Favorite

Michael Peña with his daughter and the invisible cloak

A favorite scene in which Peña’s tenderness gives the movie genuine feeling.

About 32 min
Favorite

Michael Peña locksmith confrontation

The locksmith argument is highlighted as one of the film’s most memorable and quoteable sequences.

About 32 min
Favorite

Cheadle and Fichtner in the office

Seen as the movie’s most realistic conversation and one of its strongest scenes.

About 40 min
mixed

Thandiwe Newton car crash/assault sequence

Recognized as devastating and effective, even if the surrounding movie is absurd.

About 16 min
critical

Matt Dillon hero turn and rescue

Mocked as implausible redemption and a hero-music payoff the film has not earned.

About 32 min
positive

Don Cheadle and his mother/brother material

Acknowledged as one of the film’s more effective emotional subplots.

About 48 min
critical

Final rear-end and insurance ending

Used to show the film’s overdetermined, sermon-like ending structure.

About 1:04

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Is Crash rewatchable or only hate-watchable?

Van Lathan

It is more of a hate-watch than a true rewatchable, though individual scenes are memorable.

Bill Simmons

It is watchable enough to function as a nostalgic rewatch, even if the full movie is bad.

No final agreement About 32 min

Who is the worst character in the movie?

Van Lathan

Sandra Bullock’s character is the worst human being in the film.

Bill Simmons

Matt Dillon’s cop is the best worst-person choice because the film’s fear of police is so extreme.

Joanna Robinson

Ryan Phillippe is also a plausible worst choice because the character is badly cast and morally ugly.

They partly agreed About 32 min

Did the film need more black people / a black director?

Van Lathan

A black director could not have made this exact movie because its logic is too racially blunt and historically thin.

Joanna Robinson

A white director could make it in 2005, though it would be unlikely today.

Bill Simmons

He thinks the film’s perspective and framing are obviously white-coded.

No final agreement About 40 min

Which scene is the most rewatchable?

Van Lathan

The Cheadle/Fichtner scene is the best and most rewatchable.

Bill Simmons

The Michael Peña/daughter and locksmith material is the strongest rewatchable material.

Joanna Robinson

The Thandiwe Newton crash scene is iconic even if painful.

They partly agreed About 1:12

Would better casting change the movie?

Joanna Robinson

Ryan Phillippe is miscast; Heath Ledger or others would improve that role.

Bill Simmons

John Cusack in Matt Dillon’s role would make a much better movie.

Van Lathan

The cast is strong overall, but the writing is the bigger problem.

20 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
criticalPaul HaggisBill Simmons: Discussed as the writer-director whose real-life carjacking inspired the film and whose Oscar/Scientology context shaped its legacy. About 16 min mixedRoger EbertBill Simmons: Praised for defending the film, but also treated as someone whose support may have been shaped by personal context. About 48 min
favorableBrokeback MountainBill Simmons: Used as the obvious Best Picture rival that should have won over Crash. About 8 min
favorableTerrence HowardJoanna Robinson: Frequently praised for strong work in the film, especially in the carjacking and emotional confrontation scenes. About 16 min mixedSandra BullockVan Lathan: Seen as effective in a nasty, comedic role even though the character is awful and overdone. About 32 min mixedBrendan FraserVan Lathan: Viewed as interesting but constrained by a weakly written, racially revealing role. Opening minutes favorableDon CheadleVan Lathan: Praised for carrying some of the film’s best scenes and for being credible in the moral gray-zone material. About 40 min very favorableMichael PeñaBill Simmons: The hosts call him the best character and celebrate his early-career performance as the film’s emotional center. About 32 min
favorableThandiwe NewtonJoanna Robinson: Praised as excellent in the car-crash and assault scenes, though the material is brutal. About 16 min
favorableWilliam FichtnerVan Lathan: Admired for a realistic office confrontation scene with Cheadle and for being an effective stealth character actor. About 40 min
favorableLudacrisVan Lathan: Praised for bringing energy and credibility to the film’s opening and thematic material. About 24 min
mixedLorenz TateVan Lathan: Seen as underused and somewhat miscast in a role that did not fully match his earlier career arc. About 24 min
favorableTony DanzaBill Simmons: Enjoyed as unexpectedly effective stunt casting in a police-scene confrontation. About 48 min favorableKeith DavidBill Simmons: Praised for a strong, authoritative scene that feels like the most grounded version of the movie’s ideas. About 48 min favorableNona GayeVan Lathan: Mentioned as an appealing presence who should have been a bigger star. About 40 min
mixedOprah WinfreyVan Lathan: Her endorsement, screeners, and TV platform are described as helping legitimize the movie. About 40 min
neutralNicholsonBill Simmons: Referenced as the Oscars presenter whose announcement of Crash provoked audible shock. About 8 min · medium confidence
criticalPaul Haggis's Scientology contextVan Lathan: Brought up as part of the film’s industry backstory and later fallout around Haggis. About 40 min
favorableJennifer EspositoJoanna Robinson: Liked as talented and underused, with the hosts arguing she should have had a bigger career. About 1:12
neutralChris BridgesBill Simmons: Used as Ludacris’s real name in a story about his Oprah appearance. About 40 min · medium confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Van LathanDid not like it

Crash

Calls it a weirdly watchable but not truly rewatchable movie that works more as a hate-watch.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsDid not like it

Crash

Says the film’s reputational significance comes from the Oscars upset, not from quality.

About 8 min
Joanna RobinsonDid not like it

Crash

Argues that the movie is so ham-fisted and heavy-handed it becomes unintentionally comic.

About 16 min
Van LathanDid not like it

Sandra Bullock’s character

Calls Bullock’s character worse than a simple Karen and morally unredeemable.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cheadle/Fichtner office scene

Treats the office scene as one of the few legitimately great, realistic scenes in the movie.

About 40 min
Van LathanLoved it

Michael Peña and the locksmith family scene

Finds the Michael Peña domestic and locksmith material to be the movie’s best material.

About 32 min
Joanna RobinsonLiked it

Sandra Bullock

Likes Bullock as an actress and enjoys her willingness to play against her usual romantic-comedy image.

About 1:12
Van LathanDid not like it

white people solving racism movies

Mocks the genre of movies where white characters redeem racism for the audience.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Brokeback Mountain

Says Crash beating Brokeback Mountain was a major Oscars travesty.

About 8 min
Joanna RobinsonDid not like it

Crash

Says the movie is emotionally manipulative and badly edited, though some scenes work in isolation.

About 56 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Race as liberal self-congratulation

The hosts argue the movie lets viewers feel enlightened without challenging them deeply, especially white audiences.

About 16 min

Oscar politics and backlash

The episode frames the movie as famous because it won Best Picture over Brokeback Mountain and triggered a major awards-era backlash.

About 8 min

Pre-social-media cultural debate

They see Crash as a product of a time when movies could be collectively argued over before instant online pile-ons.

About 8 min

LAPD and institutional racism

The hosts see the film as an indictment of the LAPD and police misconduct, though often in a blunt way.

About 32 min

Career snapshot movie

The cast’s mid-career or pre-breakout status gives the film a weird time-capsule quality.

Opening minutes
24 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film was inspired by Paul Haggis’s real-life Porsche carjacking in 1991 on Wilshire Boulevard.

About 40 min

Production note

The movie had a relatively small budget and became a major Oscar winner despite modest domestic box office for a Best Picture winner.

About 40 min

Production note

Oprah’s endorsement and DVD screener strategy helped propel the film’s Oscar campaign.

About 40 min

Production note

Paul Haggis later left Scientology and became a major public controversy figure.

About 40 min

Production note

The hosts mention that the film won Best Picture, screenplay, and editing, while only Matt Dillon was nominated among the acting ensemble.

About 40 min

Production note

Thandiwe Newton wore protective underwear for the assault scene.

About 1:20

Production note

The movie was one of the first Best Picture winners to be widely pushed through DVDs to guild members.

About 40 min · medium confidence

Production note

The hosts note the film is very 2005 because of landlines, smoking in Los Angeles, and no camera phones during police incidents.

About 48 min

Production note

They jokingly refer to the character name as ‘Shaniqua’ while discussing Loretta Devine’s final scene.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Brokeback Mountain

The Oscar rival Crash beat for Best Picture.

About 8 min

Green Book

Referenced as a more recent version of a movie that reassures white audiences about race.

About 16 min

Emilia Pérez

Used as a contemporary example of a film that provokes divided reactions.

About 16 min · medium confidence

The Blind Side

Cited as one of Van’s “white people solve racism” examples.

About 48 min

A Time to Kill

Included in Van’s list of race-reckoning films.

About 48 min

The Help

Used as another example of a white-savior race movie.

About 48 min

Driving Miss Daisy

Van names it as the top white-people-solve-racism movie.

About 48 min

Magnolia

Used as a comparison for ensemble, interconnected structure and Cruise casting possibilities.

About 1:12

Playing by Heart

Mentioned as another interconnected ensemble film people forget.

About 1:20 · medium confidence

Ocean’s 12

Referenced in the cast-discussion around Matt Damon availability.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

EuroTrip

Referenced in a casting discussion involving Matt Damon’s 2005 availability.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

The Matrix

Used while discussing Thandiwe Newton’s career and visibility.

About 40 min

Ali

Mentioned in relation to interviewing Nona Gaye and her career.

About 40 min · medium confidence

The Wire

Referenced to describe Don Cheadle and Philip Seymour Hoffman-style casting ideas.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Contact

Cited as a movie Van strongly dislikes in a Nolan-related aside.

About 1:20 · medium confidence
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Oprah decision-making retrospective

A recurring joke about revisiting Oprah’s endorsements, including Crash, Oz, and Dr. Phil.

About 40 min

White people solve racism movies

Van invents a comic category for films where white characters are positioned as racial saviors.

About 48 min

Van’s schtick / LA bit

They joke about Van needing Los Angeles to keep his racial commentary fresh.

About 8 min

Ryan Phillippe pronunciation joke

They repeatedly mispronounce and mock Ryan Phillippe’s name.

About 24 min

“Beep beep” / Midnight Boys sign-off

The episode ends with a brief bit about a signature sound effect from another show.

About 1:20 · medium confidence

Van Lathan

“Maybe we call it the hate watchable.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“It’s an unbelievable and powerful movie of the year.”
Opening minutes · low confidence

Van Lathan

“Everyone's a little bad.”
About 1:04

Joanna Robinson

“There are no human being behaviors”
About 1:44

Bill Simmons

“We all collectively lost, I think, as a culture.”
About 1:44

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Bill Simmons headshotBill Simmons125 tracked appearances · 56 H / 64 C / 5 ties
Van Lathan headshotVan Lathan36 tracked appearances · 11 H / 23 C / 2 ties
Joanna Robinson headshotJoanna Robinson9 tracked appearances · 7 H / 2 C

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