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THE REWATCHABLES · January 3, 2023

Cliffhanger

A 1993 action / adventure directed by Renny Harlin, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionAdventure1990sDirected by Renny Harlin
Overall episode#289Source sheet order
Movie year19931990s
Tomatometer67%Critics’ score
Metacritic59View score
Roger Ebert3/4Original star rating
DirectorRenny HarlinAction / Adventure

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode treats Cliffhanger as a quintessential early-90s action movie: fast, muscular, slightly cheesy, and still thrilling on rewatch. Bill and Kyle admire its opening mountain-rescue sequence, its compact pace, its practical-stunt energy, and the way Michael Rooker and John Lithgow elevate the movie around Stallone. They also note how much of the movie’s appeal comes from huge action set pieces, campy dialogue, and absurd but memorable violence.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The opening rescue sequence is treated as one of the great opening scenes ever and the main reason to revisit the movie. About 8 min
  2. 02The movie moves quickly and feels compact, with little downtime between action set pieces. Opening minutes
  3. 03The practical stunts and then-novel effects still give the movie a 'how did they do that' appeal. About 8 min
  4. 04Rooker and Lithgow bring enough personality and overacting to keep the movie lively beyond Stallone. About 16 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe green-screen effects and some stunt work look dated by modern standards. About 8 min
  2. minorThe final credits arrive very abruptly, with no real emotional wrap-up. About 48 min
  3. moderateThe Bill-and-Ted-style comic-relief henchmen are weak and feel like a bad late-80s/early-90s trend. About 48 min
  4. minorThe compromised FBI-agent subplot is a stock action-movie device that stretches credibility. About 48 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening mountain rescue

Sarah's fall from the cliff and Gabe's desperate attempt to save her are treated as the movie's defining scene.

About 8 min
positive

Gabe and Jesse reunion

The awkward emotional scene between Stallone and Janine Turner is praised for its melodramatic soap-opera quality.

About 24 min
Favorite

Plane transfer stunt

The aerial transfer between planes is singled out as a wild, expensive, practical stunt.

About 24 min
mixed

Avalanche and suitcase rescue

Gabe survives by holding the suitcase overhead, while the bad guy's attempt to fire at the avalanche is mocked as absurd.

About 24 min
Favorite

Mountain slide fight

Stallone fighting while sliding down the mountain is celebrated as very fun action choreography.

About 24 min
Favorite

Stallone vs. Leon fight

Leon and Stallone's hand-to-hand fight is praised as a strong, hard-hitting sequence.

About 32 min
Favorite

Rooker confrontation with Delmar

The soccer-themed brawl with Delmar is one of the episode's favorite scenes and a major Rooker showcase.

About 32 min
Favorite

Helicopter finale

The dangling helicopter fight and Lithgow's fall are described as appropriately over-the-top for the movie's climax.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed About 1:04

Who wins the movie: Stallone or Rooker

Bill Simmons

Rooker wins because he dominates the movie's middle and scenes.

Kyle Brandt

Rooker is the real star and should win the movie.

Craig Horlbeck

Rooker wins in an upset.

They agreed About 8 min

What is the movie's greatest scene

Bill Simmons

The opening rescue is the best and the movie's signature sequence.

Kyle Brandt

The opening rescue is one of the greatest opening scenes ever.

They partly agreed About 40 min · medium confidence

Whether Janine Turner was overtaken by Demi Moore

Kyle Brandt

Turner was market-corrected by Demi Moore's career path.

Bill Simmons

No explicit rebuttal; the point is accepted as a hot take.

They agreed About 1:04

What is the best sequel idea

Bill Simmons

A Cliffhanger sequel called The Dam would be appealing.

Kyle Brandt

The sequel concept is great and would be easy to watch.

13 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableSylvester StalloneBill Simmons: Praised as handsome, in prime shape, and a big reason the movie feels like a comeback vehicle. Opening minutes very favorableMichael RookerKyle Brandt: Celebrated as a massive scene-stealer whose overacting and anger drive much of the movie. About 16 min favorableJohn LithgowBill Simmons: Admired as a campy, effective villain who gets to go darker and weirder than usual. About 16 min
favorableJanine TurnerKyle Brandt: Liked as a strong presence with memorable 90s styling and melodramatic scenes opposite Stallone. About 16 min
favorableChristopher WalkenKyle Brandt: Mentioned as the original choice for Lithgow's role, with the implication that he would have been great. About 56 min favorableTom CruiseBill Simmons: Used as the benchmark for later stunt-heavy action films that outclassed Cliffhanger's effects. About 8 min favorableArnold SchwarzeneggerKyle Brandt: Referenced as Stallone's rival and the superior box-office/action star at the time. About 8 min favorableDemi MooreKyle Brandt: Used as a career benchmark in a market-correction argument against Janine Turner. About 40 min favorableRenny HarlinBill Simmons: Credited for directing a strong, compact action movie with memorable set pieces. About 16 min favorableTrevor JonesBill Simmons: Mentioned as the composer of the film's effective score. About 40 min
neutralRex LinnBill Simmons: Identified as Travers, the rogue FBI agent. About 56 min
neutralPaul WinfieldBill Simmons: Mentioned as playing the helicopter pilot, though Bill feels the role is underwritten and oddly placed. About 56 min
neutralSimon CraneBill Simmons: The stuntman paid to perform the plane transfer stunt. About 48 min
11 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cliffhanger as Stallone comeback

Calls it Stallone's best non-Rocky, non-Rambo movie and says it marked Stallone's return after a slump.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLoved it

opening mountain rescue

Says the opening is one of the greatest opening scenes of all time and the defining memory of the film.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

opening mountain rescue

Agrees that the opener is the movie's signature sequence and wants to talk about it immediately.

Opening minutes
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Michael Rooker

Argues that Rooker is the movie's secret star and could have been an action lead.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

John Lithgow

Ranks Lithgow among his best villain performances and loves the campy evil he brings.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

plane transfer

Calls the aerial plane transfer one of the great late-80s/early-90s action scenes.

About 24 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

early-90s action style

Says the film is a perfect 90s action movie that brings a lot to the table.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Janine Turner

Likes her performance and haircut-era look, even though he later says the haircut has aged badly.

About 16 min
Kyle BrandtLoved it

Delmar soccer-kick fight

Treats the soccer-themed beating as one of the funniest and most memorable bits in the film.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Cliffhanger ending

Thinks the movie should have gone further and ended with a darker revenge beat instead of the abrupt close.

About 56 min · medium confidence
Kyle BrandtMixed

The Rock

Uses The Rock as a modern action-star comparison but argues he is not in Schwarzenegger's class.

About 48 min
4 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Stallone comeback and movie-star rivalry

The movie is framed as Stallone reasserting himself after a rough run, in contrast to Schwarzenegger's hotter streak.

Opening minutes

Early-90s action aesthetics

The film is praised as a marker of the era when action movies were getting slicker, bigger, and more self-conscious.

About 8 min

Rooker as a scene-stealer

Michael Rooker is repeatedly described as bringing the most heat, with intense overacting and strong confrontational scenes.

About 16 min

Campy villainy

John Lithgow is praised for a theatrical, heightened bad-guy performance that fits the movie's tone.

About 16 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Carolco had multiple abandoned pre-Cliffhanger projects for Stallone, including a John Hughes comedy and an 'Isobar' train-monster movie, before landing on Cliffhanger.

About 16 min

Production note

The film made about $255 million on a $70 million budget and was nominated for three Oscars but lost all of them to Jurassic Park.

About 16 min

Production note

The plane-to-plane stunt was paid at a reported cost of one million dollars and is described as a Guinness-record aerial stunt.

About 48 min

Production note

Stallone reportedly spent $100,000 of his own money to reshoot the rabbit sequence so the rabbit would survive.

About 40 min

Production note

A deleted jump between cliffs was removed because preview audiences laughed at it.

About 40 min

Production note

The movie's money plot is built around $100 million stolen in midair, which the hosts feel is too small for the scale of the operation.

About 48 min

Production note

Stallone said his top physical-condition movies were Rocky IV, Cliffhanger, and Rambo III.

About 48 min

Production note

The movie was shot in part in the Dolomites near Cortina d'Ampezzo.

About 48 min

Production note

Stallone wanted the opening glove slip to feel real; the stunt team used an oversized glove and even filled it with Vaseline before the glove finally came off.

About 48 min

Production note

A sequel called The Dam was developed years later and then again in 2008, but never happened.

About 1:04

Die Hard

Used repeatedly as the template for 'Die Hard on a mountain/plane/bus' style action movies.

About 8 min

Mission: Impossible

Cited as the later franchise that improved upon the stunt style Cliffhanger was trying to sell.

About 8 min

Terminator 2

Mentioned as another early example of 'how did they do that' effects filmmaking.

About 8 min

Rocky III

Used as a comparison point for Stallone's guilt-driven character beats.

Opening minutes

Rocky IV

Referenced for Stallone's upside-down hanging and mountain-climbing imagery.

About 32 min

Kindergarten Cop

Cited as part of Schwarzenegger's hot streak versus Stallone's slump.

About 8 min

Under Siege

Referenced as part of the wave of smarter, bigger 90s action films inspired by T2.

About 8 min

True Lies

Named alongside Under Siege as part of the stronger 90s action style.

About 8 min

Ricochet

Used to illustrate Lithgow's darker villain work.

About 16 min

Footloose

Referenced as another Lithgow villain role.

About 16 min

JFK

Mentioned as one of Michael Rooker's notable credits.

About 16 min

Days of Thunder

Used as a reference point for Michael Rooker and his aggressive supporting performances.

About 16 min

Above the Rim

Referenced as the role where Leon peaks and 'throws heat.'

About 24 min

Shoot to Kill

Cited as a near-identical earlier mountain-thriller premise.

About 48 min

The Dam

The planned sequel concept described as 'Die Hard in a dam.'

About 1:04
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Rooker sauce

Kyle repeatedly jokes that Michael Rooker is operating at full 'Rooker sauce' intensity and should be in more action movies.

About 16 min

Die Hard on a blank

They riff on the movie as part of a family of 'Die Hard on a mountain/plane/bus' imitations.

About 8 min

Early-90s technology praise

They mock the era's crude but impressive-looking tech, TVs, and green-screen tricks.

About 8 min

Bill and Ted / comic-relief henchmen

They keep mocking the movie's silly comic-relief bad guys as a dated action-movie device.

About 48 min

No bullets, bitch

Leon's line becomes a repeated favorite, emblematic of the movie's absurd coolness.

About 32 min

Soccer villain bit

Delmar's soccer-kicking fight style is treated as bizarrely memorable and slightly racist in tone.

About 32 min

Kyle Brandt

“one of the greatest opening scenes”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“No bullets, bitch!”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“It was a bad time for everybody.”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“The action is the juice”
About 24 min

Speaker not identified

“Kill a million, and you're a conqueror.”
About 56 min

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