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THE REWATCHABLES · March 8, 2022

Batman (1989)

A 1989 action / superhero directed by Tim Burton, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionSuperhero1980sDirected by Tim Burton
Overall episode#244Source sheet order
Movie year19891980s
Tomatometer77%Critics’ score
Metacritic69View score
Roger Ebert2/4Original star rating
DirectorTim BurtonAction / Superhero

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Batman (1989) was a watershed pop-culture event: a dark but lean blockbuster that helped define the modern superhero movie, normalize mega-merchandising, and turn Jack Nicholson’s Joker into the film’s dominant force. The hosts admire Burton’s visual world and Nicholson’s performance while also noting the movie’s oddities, rough effects, and dated romance plotting.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Jack Nicholson’s Joker is wildly entertaining and often feels like the movie’s main engine. About 8 min
  2. 02Tim Burton’s Gotham design and production design remain striking and memorable. About 24 min
  3. 03The Batcave, Batmobile, and Batman’s first reveal are singled out as iconic set pieces. About 32 min
  4. 04The movie’s place in Batmania and the broader 1989 summer-movie landscape makes it culturally fascinating to revisit. Opening minutes

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorSome visual effects look dated or obviously 1989-era. About 48 min
  2. moderateThe film is sometimes too dark, making action hard to see. About 48 min
  3. moderateThe Bruce/Vicki romance scenes are awkward and lack chemistry. About 48 min
  4. moderateThe cathedral finale is overlong and geometrically absurd. About 40 min
  5. minorRobert Wuhl’s Knox is overused and distracting. About 48 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Batman’s first reveal

Batman confronts thugs, rescues the victim, and lands the iconic “I’m Batman” introduction.

About 32 min
positive

Bruce Wayne’s office with Vicki Vale and Knox

The hosts enjoy Bruce’s strange, rich-guy banter and the odd social dynamic of the scene.

About 32 min
Favorite

Batmobile / Batcave reveal

Batman’s arrival in the Batcave and the machinery around it are described as incredibly cool and weird.

About 32 min
Favorite

Joker’s museum attack and dance montage

Nicholson’s vandalism, dancing, and Prince-scored chaos are treated as one of the film’s signature set pieces.

About 16 min
positive

Batman vs. Joker with Vicki and “let’s get nuts”

The apartment confrontation is remembered as a key escalation point and a memorable Bruce/Joker clash.

About 40 min
mixed

Final cathedral battle

The climax is memorable but also mocked for its size, logic, and odd geometry.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed About 8 min

Is Batman (1989) a Batman movie or a Joker movie?

Bill Simmons

It is basically the Joker movie; Nicholson drives the story.

Chris Ryan

Nicholson dominates the film, so the Joker is effectively the lead.

Sean Fennessey

The movie’s structure and energy largely belong to the Joker.

They agreed Opening minutes

Did the movie help create the modern superhero/IP boom for better or worse?

Sean Fennessey

Yes, and that has partly damaged the industry.

Bill Simmons

Yes, it showed the blueprint for massive corporate tie-ins.

They partly agreed About 24 min

Is the film darker than people remember?

Chris Ryan

After newer Batman films, it feels somewhat lighter than remembered.

Bill Simmons

It is dark, but mostly in a controlled, stylized way.

Sean Fennessey

The darkness fits the character and was striking for the time.

They partly agreed About 1:12

Which Burton Batman is his apex?

Sean Fennessey

Batman Returns is probably Burton’s apex because he controlled it more.

Bill Simmons

Batman 1989 is the defining pop-cultural peak for the era.

Chris Ryan

Batman Returns may be stronger as a movie, but this one is the bigger cultural event.

14 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableJack NicholsonBill Simmons: Praised as the movie’s most electric element and the key reason the film works. About 8 min favorableTim BurtonSean Fennessey: Credited for the film’s distinctive look and outsider sensibility, though the hosts note he disliked some compromises. About 24 min favorableMichael KeatonBill Simmons: Seen as an inspired, risky casting choice who gives Batman a weird, off-kilter presence. About 8 min mixedKim BasingerBill Simmons: Noted as very attractive and effective enough in the role, but her chemistry with Keaton is questioned. About 40 min mixedPrinceBill Simmons: His songs are treated as part of the movie’s cultural package, though the soundtrack placement is debated. About 48 min
favorableAnton FurstSean Fennessey: Praised for the Oscar-winning production design that gives Gotham its lasting visual identity. About 32 min
favorableDanny ElfmanBill Simmons: Mentioned positively for the score as part of the film’s overall soundscape. About 40 min mixedRoger EbertBill Simmons: His two-star review is cited as a rare dissenting view that found the movie mean-spirited and lacking memorability. About 40 min
mixedBilly Dee WilliamsBill Simmons: Mentioned as a partly wasted Harvey Dent casting choice who was later sidelined. About 56 min
neutralMorgan FreemanBill Simmons: Raised in a speculative casting discussion for Harvey Dent. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralBob WuhlBill Simmons: Cited as a source for backstage casting and production anecdotes, though his reliability is questioned. About 56 min · medium confidence
favorableAdam WestBill Simmons: Referenced as the classic TV Batman who publicly wanted the role back, but the hosts treat this as unnecessary. About 1:04 favorableRobin WilliamsSean Fennessey: Discussed as the alternate Joker and a key sliding-doors possibility; the hosts think the resulting Batman and Dead Poets Society swap would be strange. About 1:04 criticalRobert WuhlBill Simmons: Bill calls him the film’s most unfortunate overused supporting presence. About 48 min
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Sean FennesseyMixed

superhero movies and industry effects

He likes many superhero films but thinks Batman helped accelerate an industry trend toward IP and commodification.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Batman (1989)

He frames the film as a cultural landmark that launched Batmania and the modern blockbuster-merchandising model.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Jack Nicholson

He sees Nicholson as perfect casting because the actor’s signature meltdown energy fits the Joker.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Prince montage at the museum

He thinks the montage marks the symbolic end of the 1980s.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Joker museum dance sequence

He likes the crazy, over-the-top quality of the museum sequence and its pop-art weirdness.

About 16 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Tim Burton’s visual design

He credits Burton and Anton Furst with creating a Gotham that still looks great decades later.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Batman’s vigilante persona

He contrasts Batman’s rule-breaking, morally gray presence with the cleaner Superman model.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Batcave drive

He says the Batcave sequence is a favorite because of how strange and well-staged it is.

About 32 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Tim Burton as a filmmaker

He argues Burton was a rare mainstream auteur who made accessible outsider stories before IP took over.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsStrongly disliked it

Robert Wuhl

He repeatedly complains that Wuhl’s character is overpresent and unnecessary.

About 48 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Keaton’s Batman reveal line

He enjoys the introduction of Batman and the directness of the classic line delivery.

About 32 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Batman Returns vs. Batman

He eventually argues Burton’s sequel may be his apex because he controlled it more completely.

About 1:12
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Superhero-movie industrialization

The hosts treat the film as the blueprint for modern blockbuster IP strategy, marketing, and merchandise tie-ins.

Opening minutes

The Joker as the true protagonist

They argue the film is structurally a Joker movie, with Nicholson carrying the biggest arc and momentum.

About 8 min

Batman as a vigilante outsider

Sean emphasizes Batman’s psychotic, rule-breaking nature and how that made the character culturally potent.

About 8 min

Late-80s cultural transition

The movie is framed as a hinge point between the brighter 1980s and the darker, more cynical 1990s.

About 8 min

Star-driven spectacle

The casting of Nicholson, Burton, and Keaton is treated as a crucial part of why the movie worked as an event.

About 8 min
22 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film cost about $48 million and made about $411.6 million.

About 40 min

Production note

It was the fastest film to reach $100 million at the time.

About 40 min

Mentioned with uncertainty

Jack Nicholson may have made far more than his reported salary because of backend participation.

About 24 min · medium confidence

Production note

The film was shot at Pinewood Studios to keep Nicholson’s Joker look secret.

About 56 min

Production note

The Batman suit reportedly cost $250,000 and the cathedral set about $100,000.

About 56 min

Production note

The movie had 56 dead bodies.

About 56 min

Production note

Nicholson had conditions such as top billing, backend participation, and time off for Lakers games.

About 1:04

Production note

During production, Nicholson allegedly watched taped basketball games while in makeup.

About 56 min

Superman

Used as the earlier superhero template that Batman later followed and surpassed culturally.

Opening minutes

Superman 2

Cited fondly as an example of an earlier blockbuster sequel they loved.

Opening minutes

Die Hard

Used to compare late-80s action innovation and to discuss how the new Batman felt to Craig.

About 24 min

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Held up as a major 1989 release that was also highly anticipated.

About 16 min

Back to the Future

Mentioned as another film that used early cross-promotion tactics.

About 8 min

Jurassic Park

Compared to Batman as another culture-wide event movie with massive hype.

Opening minutes

The Shining

Used to compare Nicholson’s Joker performance to his late-film breakdown in that movie.

About 16 min

The Departed

Mentioned as a film that echoes Batman with callbacks and references.

About 16 min · medium confidence

Batman Returns

Used as the sequel that may represent Burton’s peak Batman film.

About 1:12

Batman Forever

Mentioned in the context of Robin Williams and the Riddler role.

About 1:04

The Batman

Used as the contemporary comparison point for darkness and tone.

About 24 min

A Few Good Men

Used to illustrate Nicholson’s late-career move into big pop-culture roles.

About 24 min

Dead Poets Society

Used in the Robin Williams sliding-doors discussion and as a major 1989 hit.

About 1:04

Pinewood Studios

Mentioned as the production location where secrecy was important.

About 56 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

F'd Up Family February outro

The episode opens by joking that the themed month is finally over and they can return to superhero movies.

Opening minutes

Re-Arliss / Robert Wuhl joke

Bill repeatedly jokes about a hypothetical rewatchables-style Arliss project and Robert Wuhl’s place in it.

About 1:04

Lakers-game / Sixers-playoff scheduling bit

Nicholson’s Batman contract is compared to Chris’s own sports-viewing scheduling needs.

About 1:04

Rhyming / quote game around Joker lines

The hosts keep returning to memorable Joker one-liners like “Wait till they get a load of me.”

About 16 min

Batcave / Batman voice admiration

They joke about Keaton’s low Batman voice and the coolness of the Batcave reveal.

About 32 min

Speaker not identified

“I'm Batman.”
About 32 min

Speaker not identified

“Wait till they get a load of me.”
About 16 min

Speaker not identified

“You wanna get nuts? Let's get nuts.”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“I'm rich.”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“Never rub another man's rhubarb.”
About 16 min

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