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THE REWATCHABLES · November 28, 2023

American Pie

A 1999 comedy / romance / teen directed by Paul Weitz, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ComedyRomanceTeen1990sDirected by Paul Weitz
Overall episode#68Source sheet order
Movie year19991990s
Tomatometer62%Critics’ score
Metacritic58View score
Roger Ebert3/4Original star rating
DirectorPaul WeitzComedy / Romance / Teen

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts treat American Pie as a hugely influential, very 1999 teen comedy that was entertaining and culturally important but has aged badly, especially around sex, consent, and racial representation. They credit it with launching or popularizing a lot of late-90s pop-cultural shorthand, while also noting that later comedies did the same template better.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Stifler's party and the pale ale bit are repeatedly cited as very funny and rewatchable. About 24 min
  2. 02Eugene Levy's birds-and-the-bees speech is singled out for comic rewatch value. About 24 min
  3. 03The Nadia webcam/premature ejaculation sequence is described as both famous and funny in a grotesque way. About 24 min
  4. 04The final choir/acapella payoff is rewatchable because it is so bad and absurdly over-extended. About 24 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe movie's treatment of Nadia is a serious invasion of privacy and would be criminal in a modern setting. About 24 min
  2. moderateMany performances are weak, especially Chris Klein, Mina Savari, and some supporting scenes. About 32 min
  3. moderateThe film's racial whiteness is striking, with almost no Black characters and a very narrow setting. About 48 min
  4. minorThe soundtrack feels weaker than the movie and misses some songs that should have been included. About 48 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening Stifler party and beer gag

The house party and pale-ale sequence are treated as a classic comic set piece.

About 24 min
Favorite

Eugene Levy's sex talk

Levy's awkward but heartfelt birds-and-bees speech is highlighted as a comic standout.

About 24 min
mixed

Jim and Nadia webcam scene

Funny to the hosts but also the clearest example of the film's illegal, predatory behavior.

About 24 min
critical

Final choir performance

The finale is mocked as overlong, awkward, and one of the movie's worst scenes.

About 24 min
Favorite

Band camp reveal

The recurring 'one time at band camp' line remains one of the movie's most famous jokes.

About 40 min
Favorite

Stifler's mom scene

Jennifer Coolidge's scene is remembered as a defining comic and cultural moment.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

No final agreement About 32 min

Whether the movie was subversive parody or straightforward teen comedy

Bill Simmons

It is knowingly cartoonish and almost a parody of earlier teen movies.

Chris Ryan

The movie feels more like an updated version of older sex comedies than a full parody.

Sean Fennessey

Its tone reflects a late-90s social context more than a pure satire.

They partly agreed About 1:04

Who won the movie over time

Bill Simmons

Jennifer Coolidge and Eugene Levy are the long-term winners.

Chris Ryan

Sean William Scott and Eugene Levy are the main winners.

Sean Fennessey

The Weitz brothers deserve credit for the movie's lasting impact.

They agreed About 40 min

How much the film's behavior would be unacceptable today

Bill Simmons

The webcam sequence would turn the movie into a horror story now.

Chris Ryan

Modern reaction would be much harsher and legal consequences would follow.

Sean Fennessey

The movie survives partly because it came from a different era.

12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableEugene LevyBill Simmons: Praised as excellent in the father speech scene and later identified as one of the movie's long-term winners. About 24 min very favorableJennifer CoolidgeBill Simmons: Cited as the movie's biggest belated breakout and singled out for her scene as Stifler's mom. Opening minutes favorableSean William ScottBill Simmons: Seen as the key draw for teenage boys and a strong comic force as Stifler. About 32 min
favorableShannon ElizabethBill Simmons: Remembered as a late-90s sex symbol and a major marketing hook for the movie. About 40 min
criticalChris KleinBill Simmons: Repeatedly criticized for poor acting, though acknowledged as effective in Election. About 32 min
criticalMina SavariBill Simmons: Described as a weak performer carrying dramatic weight she cannot convincingly handle. About 32 min
mixedTara ReadeBill Simmons: Viewed as part of the movie's period-capsule charm but also as a weak performer with a peak 1999 career. About 32 min
favorableNatasha LyonneBill Simmons: Credited as one of the cast members who had the most interesting later career. About 32 min
favorableCasey AffleckBill Simmons: Held up as the movie's cameo win and a surprisingly notable get for a tiny sushi-bar scene. About 56 min
favorableAlison HanniganBill Simmons: Praised for choosing the band-camp role and for her comic performance. About 48 min
favorableJohn ChoBill Simmons: His brief scene is used as an example of a funny 1999 supporting beat. About 40 min
favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Cited approvingly for calling the film cheerful, hardworking, and not mean. About 24 min
8 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLiked it

American Pie as a 1999 teen-comedy landmark

Frames it as a huge pop-cultural success and part of a late-90s high-school-movie boom.

About 8 min
Chris RyanMixed

the film's pacing and structure

Says scenes run too long and the film feels clunky compared with later comedies.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

teen-comedy nostalgia

Recalls it as a social event in high school and a movie that felt made for his age group.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Nadia webcam scene

Finds the scene funny because of its absurd pre-broadband setup and comic timing, even while acknowledging the illegality.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Stifler

Treats Stifler as a major comic engine and the movie's most magnetic presence.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

American Pie vs. later sex comedies

Argues the film is rough and amateurish but still culturally important and successful.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Stifler party beer bit

Calls the opening beer-drinking scene one of the funniest and least problematic parts.

About 24 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

the movie as a product of pre-internet teen culture

Emphasizes that the film worked as a 1999 social event for teens before streaming and social media.

About 8 min
4 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

late-1990s teen-comedy boom

The episode places the movie inside a burst of high-school comedies around 1999 and contrasts it with earlier 80s sex comedies.

Opening minutes

gross-out, sex-comedy lineage

They frame the film as a late-90s update of 80s horny teen movies and early gross-out comedies.

About 8 min

technology as a time capsule

The film's internet, webcam, and e-date moments are treated as very specific to the primitive internet era.

About 16 min

belated breakout careers

They observe that Jennifer Coolidge and Eugene Levy became even bigger stars later, while several cast members peaked here or shortly after.

Opening minutes
22 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The screenplay's working title was 'Untitled Teenage Sex Comedy That Can Be Made for Under $10 Million That Most Readers Will Probably Hate, But I Think You Will Love.'

About 8 min

Production note

It allegedly took four tries to secure an R rating instead of NC-17.

About 56 min

Production note

The pie sex scene had different cuts in the unrated and R-rated versions.

About 8 min

Production note

The movie was shot in Southern California, including Long Beach high schools.

About 56 min

Production note

The apparent erection in the opening scene was faked with a sausage on a pencil wrapped in foil.

About 56 min

Production note

The pale ale drink was beer mixed with egg whites.

About 56 min

Production note

Sean William Scott reportedly made only $8,000 for the first film and later negotiated a $15 million return for a sequel.

About 32 min

Production note

The film's foreign rights were sold at Cannes before release.

About 24 min

Production note

The movie spawned four direct-to-video spinoffs.

About 56 min

Porky's

Used as an example of the earlier sex-comedy lineage.

About 8 min

Fast Times at Ridgemont High

Named as a high-end 80s teen movie in the genre lineage.

About 8 min

Animal House

Referenced as an origin point for the nudity-plus-laughs formula.

About 8 min

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Used to describe the sprinting, comedic energy of the Nadia webcam setup.

About 32 min

Blair Witch Project

Mentioned as another 1999-era cultural phenomenon tied to early internet gullibility.

About 8 min

Old School

Cited as a later, sharper version of this kind of comedy and as a Sean William Scott role reference.

About 24 min

Superbad

Used as the clearest later upgrade on the American Pie template.

About 24 min

Election

Mentioned as the better vehicle for Chris Klein's same basic type of performance.

About 32 min

Schitt's Creek

Referenced as the show that boosted Eugene Levy's later fame.

Opening minutes

White Lotus

Referenced as the show that made Jennifer Coolidge an even bigger star.

Opening minutes

TRL

Mentioned in connection with Tara Reade dating Carson Daly.

About 1:12

The Big Lebowski

Used as another DVD-era rewatch staple.

About 40 min

American Vandal

Named as the closest modern tonal descendant of the teen-comedy setup.

About 1:04
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

MILF discussion

The hosts joke and debate whether the movie popularized the term and how it changed pop culture.

About 40 min

Hot mom stories

The conversation drifts into personal anecdotes about attractive mothers and school culture.

About 40 min

Pronouncing names badly

Bill repeatedly mispronounces Pantoliano-style names and the group jokes through it.

About 56 min · medium confidence

1999 time capsule jokes

The hosts keep returning to AOL, e-date, scrambled porn, webcam technology, and late-90s clothes.

About 16 min

'Band camp' as a cultural shorthand

They treat the band-camp line as an instantly recognizable late-90s joke that spread widely.

About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“What exactly does it feel like? Warm apple pie.”
Opening minutes

Chris Ryan

“Guys, I've got a choir to go to.”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“say hello to Chuck Sherman, the man”
About 1:04

Bill Simmons

“This one time at band camp”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“fucking use them”
About 1:04

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where American Pie is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before American Pie, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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