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THE REWATCHABLES · October 30, 2019

The Shining

A 1980 horror / mystery directed by Stanley Kubrick, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

HorrorMystery1980sDirected by Stanley Kubrick
Overall episode#106Source sheet order
Movie year19801980s
Tomatometer84%Critics’ score
Metacritic68View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
DirectorStanley KubrickHorror / Mystery

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A celebratory but analytic conversation about why The Shining remains hugely rewatchable: its terror, visual craft, haunted-hotel atmosphere, Nicholson performance, internet-era conspiracy afterlife, and the way Kubrick and King diverged. The hosts mostly admire it while debating specific scenes, interpretations, and a few aged-worst elements.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The film’s imagery and sound design make repeated viewings rewarding, especially in widescreen and on cable. About 8 min
  2. 02Kubrick’s meticulous visual construction invites viewers to hunt for patterns, symbolism, and hidden meanings. About 8 min
  3. 03Jack Nicholson’s performance offers endless facial expressions and quotable moments. About 8 min
  4. 04The set pieces are iconic and escalate beautifully, especially the staircase, the axe sequence, and the maze finale. About 40 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateStephen King’s criticism of the adaptation is discussed as a major source of early resistance to the movie. About 40 min
  2. majorShelley Duvall’s ordeal on set is treated as deeply troubling and possibly damaging. About 1:04
  3. minorSome conspiracy-readings and overanalysis are mocked as crackpot or excessive. About 16 min
  4. minorAged-worst material includes the old naked woman, the bear-costume sex image, and some performance excess. About 1:12

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening helicopter/tracking credits

The opening credits and aerial approach to the hotel are praised as one of the best movie openings and an ideal trailer-image sequence.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Jack confronting Wendy about interrupting his writing

A key scene for understanding Jack's writerly frustration and escalating rage.

About 24 min
Favorite

Jack drinking with Lloyd

Nicholson's drink-ordering scene is treated as a career highlight and a perfect expression of corruption.

About 40 min
Favorite

Wendy discovering the manuscript

The 'all work and no play' pages are singled out as an all-time movie shock moment.

About 48 min
Favorite

Staircase attack with the bat

The hallway/staircase confrontation is celebrated for terror, performance, and staging.

About 48 min
Favorite

Bathroom axe sequence

The axe-through-the-door scene is treated as one of horror's greatest set pieces, though one host notes prior exposure dulled first-view impact.

About 48 min
Favorite

Scatman Crothers's death

Halloran's murder is described as shocking and brutally effective.

About 48 min
Favorite

Maze finale

Danny outsmarting Jack in the hedge maze is praised as a clever, visual finale with strong payoff.

About 48 min
Favorite

Redrum reveal

The mirror-word reversal is called deeply creepy and still effective.

About 1:12

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 16 min

Is The Shining mainly about Native American genocide or something simpler?

Chris Ryan

Some Indian imagery and dialogue clues seem intentional and worth taking seriously.

Sean Fennessey

The Native American material is present, but the movie is also straightforwardly about family, writer's block, and alcoholism.

They partly agreed About 16 min

How much should Room 237-style theorizing be trusted?

Bill Simmons

The internet expanded the film, but some readings become crackpot and go too far.

Chris Ryan

Cultural scholarship and original interpretations can still be interesting, even if they are weird.

They partly agreed About 40 min

Was Stephen King's objection to the movie justified?

Bill Simmons

King had understandable personal reasons to hate the adaptation, but the movie still works brilliantly.

Chris Ryan

The film is a valid reinterpretation because books and movies are different mediums.

They left it as a friendly argument About 16 min

Does the bear-costume image mean anything?

Bill Simmons

Jokes that the image is bizarre and hard to interpret, maybe deliberately left as a red herring.

Sean Fennessey

Treats the image as part of the movie's unsettling symbolic density but doesn't resolve it.

11 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableStanley KubrickBill Simmons: Praised as a genius and meticulous filmmaker who controlled every detail and built the film with exacting precision. About 8 min very favorableJack NicholsonBill Simmons: Celebrated for his expressive face, madness, and career-defining performance here. About 8 min mixedShelley DuvallSean Fennessey: Seen as essential to the movie’s tension, but also discussed as someone Kubrick badly mistreated. About 24 min mixedStephen KingBill Simmons: Discussed as the author who hated Kubrick’s adaptation and wanted a different, more literal version. About 40 min
favorableScatman CrothersBill Simmons: Praised for his role as Halloran, especially the early shining explanation and the shocking death scene. About 48 min
favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Referenced for initially disliking the film and later revising his view to call it a masterpiece. About 56 min favorableHarry Dean StantonBill Simmons: Mentioned as the originally intended Lloyd, which the hosts think would have worked well. About 1:12 favorableMeryl StreepBill Simmons: Suggested as a recasting idea for Wendy, with the hosts noting her quiet intensity in that era. About 1:12
neutralDanny LloydBill Simmons: Discussed mainly in production trivia: Kubrick protected him and kept him unaware it was a horror movie. About 1:12
neutralTony BurtonBill Simmons: Identified as Scatman Crothers's contact at the snowcat/radio end of the story. About 1:12
criticalDelbert GradyBill Simmons: Talked about as a terrifying, controlled presence whose dialogue turns the movie truly evil. About 48 min
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The Shining as a rewatchable horror movie

Argues the film is a masterpiece that becomes more rewatchable through cable, TV edits, and repeated viewings.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Kubrick’s symbolism and process

Says Kubrick’s precision and the film’s visual patterns invite endless scrutiny.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLiked it

The Shining as a haunted-text puzzle

Enjoys the internet’s effect on the movie and thinks some deeper Native American imagery is plausible.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Jack Nicholson

Treats Nicholson as an all-time star whose performance and face carry the movie.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Writer’s block confrontation scene

Connects strongly to Jack's rage at interruption and the scene's writing-specific frustration.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Jack and Lloyd at the bar

Highlights Nicholson’s face blanking out after the drink as one of the actor’s greatest moments.

About 40 min
Chris RyanLoved it

The staircase showdown

Treats the Wendy-versus-Jack staircase sequence as one of the greatest scenes in horror history.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The manuscript reveal

Calls the 'all work and no play' reveal one of the all-time holy-shit moments.

About 48 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

The Steadicam

Explains that The Shining made Steadicam feel ghostly and changed how movies could be shot.

About 56 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Shelley Duvall

Thinks Duvall is weird and annoying in the role, but also essential to the film's terror.

About 40 min
Chris RyanMixed

Stephen King

Accepts King's personal reasons for disliking the adaptation but still values the film on its own terms.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Room 237 theories

Likes the conspiratorial conversation around the film but warns against taking theories too far.

About 1:04
4 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Writer's block and artistic frustration

The movie is framed as a portrait of a blocked, resentful writer whose work and family pressures curdle into violence.

About 24 min

Parenthood and domestic failure

They stress the film’s interest in bad fathers, family dysfunction, and how Jack fails as a husband and parent.

About 8 min

Haunting, conspiracy, and symbolic overreading

The movie’s ambiguity encourages internet-era theories about Native American imagery, numerology, and hidden structure.

About 8 min

Cocaine-era studio filmmaking

The episode situates the film in a period when studios let big auteurs make expensive, weird genre movies.

About 16 min
24 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Kubrick originally wanted the room number 217 from the book but changed it to 237 at the hotel's request.

About 16 min

Production note

The film ran on a much longer schedule than planned, reportedly 17 weeks planned and 51 weeks shot.

About 1:12

Production note

The movie was shot sequentially so Shelley Duvall could deteriorate over time.

About 1:04

Production note

Danny Lloyd reportedly did not know he was making a horror movie.

About 1:12

Production note

The 'Here's Johnny' scene took three days and used 60 doors.

About 1:12

Production note

The maze snow was made from salt and crushed styrofoam.

About 1:12

Production note

Steadicam first appeared in several 1976 films including Bound for Glory, Rocky, and Marathon Man.

About 56 min

Production note

Kubrick considered several alternate castings, including Jessica Lange, Harrison Ford, Robert De Niro, Robin Williams, and Harry Dean Stanton.

About 1:12

Production note

Nicholson's line 'I'm home' and the 'all work and no play' page were treated as iconic recurring quotes/images.

About 1:20

Room 237

Cited as the documentary that intensified conspiratorial readings of The Shining.

About 8 min

Twin Peaks

Used as a comparison for movies that encourage symbolic obsession.

About 8 min

Top Gun

Referenced via Tarantino's Sleep With Me cameo and a gay subtext interpretation.

About 8 min

The Exorcist

Grouped with major horror blockbusters that shaped the era.

About 16 min

Rosemary's Baby

Mentioned as part of the lineage of prestige horror.

About 16 min

Alien

Used to explain Harry Dean Stanton's scheduling conflict and the broader genre moment.

About 1:12

Caddyshack

Cited as a cocaine-era example of improvised, late-added material.

About 16 min

Raging Bull

Mentioned as another 1980 film that redefined a genre.

About 16 min

Mad Max

Referenced as another genre movie from the same year that felt unusually fresh.

About 24 min

Popeye

Used to show how different Shelley Duvall's next role was after The Shining.

About 1:04

The Stuntman

Referenced in the 1980 Oscar discussion involving Peter O'Toole.

About 56 min

Rocky

Mentioned in relation to Tony Burton and the Steadicam example from 1976.

About 1:12

Dr. Sleep

Discussed as the sequel that tries to reconcile the book and the film.

About 1:20

Batman

Used as an example of when Bill became aware of Nicholson outside The Shining.

Opening minutes

The Simpsons

Referenced as the source of an iconic visual being already familiar before the film was seen.

About 48 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Termite King / conspiracy king riff

Chris is repeatedly jokingly framed as the 'Termite King,' a stand-in for obsessive conspiracy reading.

About 1:04

Crackpot theory playacting

The hosts repeatedly mock and impersonate extreme theorists, especially around moon-landing and hidden-symbol ideas.

About 16 min

Steadycam praise gag

Sean is teased about having exactly 50 seconds to explain the Steadicam, which turns into a genuine craft mini-lecture.

About 56 min

Jack/Bill's 'all work and no play' jokes

They keep riffing on the manuscript pages as if they were blog posts, ads, or podcast feeds.

About 48 min

Trampoline comparisons

A few jokes compare the maze and the film’s action to trampolines or athletic traps.

About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“I'm going to bash your fucking brains in.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Here's Johnny.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“I'm home.”
About 1:20

Bill Simmons

“You've had your whole fucking life”
About 1:20

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

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WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

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Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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