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THE REWATCHABLES · October 13, 2020

The Martian

A 2015 sci-fi / adventure directed by Ridley Scott, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

Sci-fiAdventure2010sDirected by Ridley Scott
Overall episode#168Source sheet order
Movie year20152010s
Tomatometer91%Critics’ score
Metacritic80View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorRidley ScottSci-fi / Adventure

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that The Martian is a surprisingly rewatchable, very entertaining, wholesome crowd-pleaser built on problem-solving, star charisma, and ensemble competence. The hosts admire its optimism, science-forward plotting, and rare modern blockbuster feel, while also noting tonal quirks and a few casting/logic issues.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01It moves immediately into the mission and disaster without a long setup. About 48 min
  2. 02The movie is legible, with science and problem-solving that the audience can follow. About 48 min
  3. 03It is a rare standalone blockbuster that feels complete and self-contained. Opening minutes
  4. 04Matt Damon’s calm, funny performance keeps the movie engaging. About 8 min
  5. 05The ensemble problem-solving on Earth and Mars gives the movie high stakes. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorThe movie is the 'least dramatic drama,' because the audience knows Damon will survive. Opening minutes
  2. moderateJessica Chastain’s character abandoning Damon feels emotionally thin. About 48 min
  3. moderateKristen Wiig’s role feels tonally awkward and miscast. About 1:04
  4. moderateThe opening Mars storm is scientifically questionable. About 1:28
  5. minorThe rescue-plan exposition is hard to fully track. About 1:28

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening storm and abort

The Mars mission collapses immediately into a storm sequence that launches the plot with little setup.

About 48 min
Favorite

Watney begins solving survival

His early work on water, shelter, and farming is treated as the movie’s soul.

About 1:12
Favorite

NASA communication and Rich Purnell plan

The office-room explanation scene turns orbital mechanics into a funny, intelligible set piece.

About 1:12
Favorite

Potato farm explosion

Watney’s crop loss is described as one of the most gut-wrenching scenes.

About 32 min
Favorite

Starman montage

The Bowie montage is singled out as a great use of a song and a classic montage sequence.

About 32 min
Favorite

Rescue and reunion

The rescue works, but the hosts wish the reunion and immediate aftermath had lasted longer.

About 1:04

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed Opening minutes

Is The Martian the most entertaining sci-fi movie?

Sean Fennessey

It is highly entertaining and in the conversation, but not clearly the single most entertaining.

Chris Ryan

No; Terminator 2, Aliens, and Apollo 13 are stronger contenders.

Van Lathan

No; Star Wars entries and other classics are more entertaining.

They partly agreed About 16 min

Matt Damon vs. Leonardo DiCaprio

Van Lathan

Leo is better overall as an actor and has higher-end movie choices.

Chris Ryan

Damon is more fun, more versatile in ensembles, and makes better rewatchable movies.

Sean Fennessey

They are different kinds of stars and are hard to compare directly.

They left it as a friendly argument About 48 min

Did Jessica Chastain properly abandon Damon?

Van Lathan

She effectively left him for dead and should be blamed.

Sean Fennessey

She made the right call given the storm and damage.

Chris Ryan

The decision was operationally necessary, but the movie could have given more emotional follow-through.

They partly agreed About 1:12

Does the Rich Purnell gravity-assist plan fully make sense?

Bill Simmons

He still does not fully understand the mechanics.

Chris Ryan

The movie makes it legible enough to follow emotionally, even if the science is fuzzy.

Van Lathan

It works as movie science, but the practicality is still a bit mystical.

They agreed About 1:04

Kristen Wiig casting

Sean Fennessey

She feels tonally off and miscast.

Bill Simmons

Kerry Washington or Kate Winslet might have fit better.

Chris Ryan

A different actor with more bureaucratic gravitas would have improved the role.

11 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
11 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Sean FennesseyLoved it

The Martian as an entertaining sci-fi movie

Argues that the film is highly entertaining and among the best in the sci-fi/space conversation, though not necessarily the single best.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

The Martian’s craft and structure

Says the film is about moviemaking, craftsmanship, and people doing their jobs at the highest level.

Opening minutes
Van LathanLoved it

The Martian’s stakes

Emphasizes that the stakes are huge because any mistake by any character can kill Damon.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Obama-era optimism and institutional trust

Reads the film as a relic of a more optimistic era that believes in NASA, science, and US-China cooperation.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Jessica Chastain leaving Damon behind

Jokes that she should not be trusted and treats the abandonment as a recurring redhead betrayal bit.

About 48 min
Sean FennesseyDid not like it

Jim Carrey in the lead role

Argues Carrey would be too broad and unstable for the part because the role requires subtle comic control.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Adam Sandler as Mark Watney

Suggests a serious Sandler performance could have worked, especially the Punch-Drunk Love/Funny People type of mode.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Donald Glover’s NASA explanation scene

Treats Glover’s scene as a perfect example of how the movie makes complicated science legible and funny.

About 1:12
Sean FennesseyLoved it

The rescue sequence

Likes the rescue but notes that the movie’s outcome is predictable because Damon must survive.

About 1:12
Van LathanMixed

Cast Away comparison

Uses Cast Away as a foil and jokes that its real lesson is about abandonment and loyalty, not hope.

About 48 min
Chris RyanLoved it

The film’s production design, effects, and music

Says the movie succeeds because every technical department is operating at peak level.

Opening minutes
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Problem-solving as heroism

The movie is framed as a story about doing the math, solving one problem after another, and surviving through competence.

About 8 min

Faith in institutions and expertise

The hosts read it as an Obama-era movie that trusts NASA, science, and collaboration between experts and governments.

About 8 min

Star performance as structure

Damon’s charisma and calm humor are treated as essential to making the movie work.

About 8 min

Modern blockbuster scarcity

They admire that it is a non-franchise, non-theme-park blockbuster that feels increasingly rare.

Opening minutes

Legibility of science in pop cinema

The film succeeds because its scientific procedures are explained in ways the audience can understand, even if only partially.

About 48 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film was nominated for seven Oscars and shut out at the awards.

Opening minutes

Production note

The story was adapted from Andy Weir’s 2011 novel.

About 48 min

Production note

Drew Goddard was originally attached to direct before Ridley Scott took over.

About 48 min

Production note

Matt Damon filmed his solo scenes for five straight weeks.

About 1:28

Production note

NASA assisted the filmmakers with science and technology details.

About 1:28

Production note

The movie was filmed in Jordan and Hungary.

About 1:28

Production note

The film’s Martian storm is scientifically inaccurate according to Andy Weir.

About 1:28

Disputed in the episode

The hosts say the movie helped Hollywood realize 3D was not the future.

About 1:28 · medium confidence

The Revenant

Used as an Oscars comparison and as another star-driven survival movie.

About 8 min

Cast Away

Compared as another film about one person alone with a survival lesson.

About 8 min

Apollo 13

Cited as a stronger contender in the space-movie entertaining discussion.

Opening minutes

Terminator 2

Listed as a superior entertainment benchmark for sci-fi action.

Opening minutes

Star Wars / The Empire Strikes Back / Return of the Jedi

Van argues these should count in the space-movie comparison and are more entertaining.

Opening minutes

Good Will Hunting

Used to explain why Damon feels believable as a smart guy.

About 8 min

The Revenant

Used again as a comparison to a star-carried survival movie and as Leo’s Oscar vehicle.

About 16 min

The Wire

Referenced when joking about power plays and resignation demands.

About 1:04

Spotlight

Referenced as the 2016 Best Picture winner and a benchmark in the Oscar discussion.

About 48 min

8mm

Referenced repeatedly as a favorite dark movie and as an upcoming podcast candidate.

About 32 min

The Big Short

Mentioned as part of the strong 2016 Best Picture field.

About 48 min

Lincoln

Used in a side debate about Spielberg’s decades-spanning iconic films.

About 16 min

Goodfellas

Referenced as a classic montage movie and soundtrack example.

About 32 min

Boogie Nights

Cited as Van’s favorite montage example.

About 32 min

Total Recall

Mentioned as another Mars-set film and as Mars’s apex-mountain reference point.

About 1:28
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Redhead betrayal

Bill repeatedly jokes that redheads cannot be trusted because Jessica Chastain left Damon behind.

About 48 min

Nerd circle / movie-guy circle

The hosts tease each other about film-nerd status and who belongs in the circle.

About 16 min

8mm evangelism

Van passionately promotes 8mm as a future podcast topic and a great movie.

About 32 min

Mark Watney as space pirate

They quote and riff on Watney’s self-appointed pirate status during the escape sequence.

About 1:28

Montage enthusiasm

The group repeatedly praises montages and uses Goodfellas and Boogie Nights as standards.

About 32 min

Tom Brady / sports analogies

They compare Ridley Scott and plot arcs to sports and aging-athlete comebacks.

About 16 min

Sean Fennessey

“This is the first Zoom movie.”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“Mark Watney is one of the biggest Gs”
About 40 min

Van Lathan

“These hoes ain't loyal.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Mark Watney, space pirate.”
About 1:28

Sean Fennessey

“Every character dies if they're three IQ points dumber”
Opening minutes

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where The Martian is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

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Three movies to watch before The Martian, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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