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THE REWATCHABLES · June 22, 2021

Stripes

A 1981 comedy / war directed by Ivan Reitman, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ComedyWar1980sDirected by Ivan Reitman
Overall episode#208Source sheet order
Movie year19811980s
Tomatometer67%Critics’ score
Metacritic68View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorIvan ReitmanComedy / War

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A highly affectionate rewatchable for Stripes, framed as a foundational college-era comedy and a peak Bill Murray vehicle. The discussion emphasizes Murray and Harold Ramis’s chemistry, the movie’s quotability, its loser-hero appeal, and the way its first two thirds massively outperform its unruly final act.
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Bill SimmonsBrian Koppelman

WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The opening stretch is an elite setup for a lovable loser, with rapid-fire humiliations that make Murray immediately sympathetic. About 24 min
  2. 02The 'meet everybody' scene is packed with quotable character introductions and running jokes. About 32 min
  3. 03The friendship between Bill Murray and Harold Ramis gives the movie its core rewatch value. About 24 min
  4. 04The apartment and prop gags reward close viewing, especially the basketball setup and improvised-feeling bits. About 8 min
  5. 05Candy, Reinhold, and the supporting cast elevate the film with lots of small, memorable moments. About 48 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe final third turns into a bizarre, overcomplicated war-mission section that feels like the movie loses the plot. About 48 min
  2. moderateThe movie is dated by its homophobic humor and some of its treatment of women. About 48 min
  3. minorThe EM50 looks too cheap for the movie to fully sell the premise. About 56 min
  4. minorThe basketball-through-the-window gag doesn’t make visual sense. About 56 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening humiliation gauntlet

Shoeshine, parking ticket, cab mishaps, upside-down pizza, and girlfriend blow-up establish Murray as a likable mess.

About 24 min
Favorite

Meeting everybody / nickname room

Murray’s introductions to Cruiser, Psycho, Ox, Francis, and others create a quotable identity parade.

About 32 min
positive

Indoor basketball apartment

The apartment and hoop are treated as one of the movie’s most personal, memorable details.

About 8 min
Favorite

General Barnicke date / spatula bit

The dinner-date material with Bill Murray and P.J. Soles is singled out as very funny.

About 40 min
Favorite

First training sequence

The training montage and physical-comedy beats are celebrated as one of the movie’s best sequences.

About 32 min
positive

Mud wrestling / Pom Poms raid

A highly memorable comic set piece, even though the logic of the raid is questioned.

About 32 min
positive

Return with newspaper headlines

The post-training news-headline montage is praised as a very funny, era-specific device.

About 32 min
critical

Final mission in Czechoslovakia

The late military rescue section is treated as absurdly off-track and overly complicated.

About 48 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:04

Does the movie need the EM50 / rescue finale?

Bill Simmons

Probably not; the movie may work better if it ended at the ceremony or stayed more focused earlier.

Brian Koppelman

He likes some of the late material, but agrees the finale is the weakest stretch.

They agreed About 1:12

Which MP woman is more compelling?

Brian Koppelman

Originally preferred P.J. Soles, but now leans Sean Young.

Bill Simmons

Agrees Sean Young has a stronger case now, especially in retrospect.

They agreed About 24 min

Bill Murray vs. Chevy Chase as a star persona

Bill Simmons

Murray is more likable and more appealing to spend time with.

Brian Koppelman

Agrees, saying Chase is funny but not someone you'd want to hang out with.

12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableBill MurrayBill Simmons: Praised as an exceptional comedian, star, and scene-stealer; the movie is described as a major Bill Murray vehicle. About 8 min very favorableHarold RamisBill Simmons: Admired as a smart, funny co-lead and crucial comedy architect whose collaboration with Murray is central to the film. About 8 min favorableIvan ReitmanBill Simmons: Credited as part of the comedy pipeline and as the director who helped shape the film and its success. About 24 min mixedChevy ChaseBill Simmons: Used as a contrast point; funny on-screen but framed as less appealing in person than Bill Murray. About 24 min very favorableJohn CandyBill Simmons: Highlighted as a heat-check supporting player whose scenes are hugely quotable and beloved. About 48 min favorableJudge ReinholdBill Simmons: Praised for a high batting average in a small role and for his comic throwaway lines. About 48 min favorableSean YoungBrian Koppelman: Praised as charismatic and terrific; also singled out in the conversational love triangle with PJ Soles. About 56 min favorableP.J. SolesBrian Koppelman: Praised as a strong casting choice and a key part of the romantic/comic dynamic. About 56 min favorableWarren OatesBill Simmons: Valued as a great gruff authority figure who helped make the military world feel real. About 48 min
favorableJohn LarroquetteBill Simmons: Cited as a memorable antagonist and a strong part of the supporting cast. About 48 min
favorableElmer BernsteinBill Simmons: Praised for a score that actively contributes to the movie’s energy and tone. About 40 min favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Referenced as having given the movie a positive review. About 24 min
8 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Stripes as a comedy icon

Calls it a crucial, iconic comedy that deeply shaped his generation and friendship patterns.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Opening 12 minutes

Says the opening is one of the strongest loser-introduction setups in movie comedy.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Meeting-everybody scene

Identifies the group-introduction scene as his most rewatchable sequence.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

First training sequence

Treats the training montage as an elite sequence and possibly the movie’s best stretch.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

General Barnicke / P.J. Soles material

Likes the four-person hangout and wishes there were more scenes with that romantic quartet.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsDid not like it

Endgame / EM50 section

Thinks the final third is messy and screenwriting-wise a disaster, though the movie still works overall.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Bill Murray

Frames Murray as the rare comic star who wins people over even while playing an obnoxious guy.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Harold Ramis

Sees Ramis as a foundational comedy talent and crucial half of the Murray pairing.

About 24 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Loser-hero comedy

The episode places Stripes inside a wider 70s/early-80s run of lovable loser comedies where audiences root for the anti-authority underachiever.

Opening minutes

College dorm canon

The movie is presented as one of the few VHS-era comedies everyone owned and rewatched in college.

Opening minutes

Bill Murray as star persona

Murray’s mix of irritation, charm, improvisational energy, and mischief is treated as the movie’s central attraction.

About 24 min

Improvisation and comic acting

The episode admires how Murray and other comedy actors of this era could ad-lib while still landing scripted material cleanly.

About 24 min

The movie as a friendship fantasy

Beyond plot, the movie is valued as a hangout with two guys audiences want to spend time with.

About 8 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Reitman originally pitched the movie as 'Cheech and Chong join the army.'

About 48 min

Production note

Columbia reportedly wanted Dennis Quaid instead of Harold Ramis.

About 48 min

Production note

Kim Basinger was offered the P.J. Soles role but passed over money.

About 48 min

Production note

The movie made about $85 million on a $10 million budget.

About 24 min

Production note

Fort Knox access and real troops were used during production.

About 56 min

Production note

Bill Murray accidentally hit himself in the balls with the suitcase and it stayed in the film.

About 56 min

Production note

The haircut reactions were genuine because the actors were not warned in advance.

About 56 min

Production note

John Candy hosted the cast for spaghetti and the No Mas fight at his house.

About 56 min

Animal House

Used as part of the canonical college VHS comedy rotation and as a comparison point for closing-credit gimmicks.

Opening minutes

Caddyshack

Referenced as a major college rewatch and as another Ramis/Murray-era comedy with surreal late-movie weirdness.

Opening minutes

The Blues Brothers

Used as another example of a rewatched college comedy and a movie with wild, explosive third acts.

Opening minutes

Airplane!

Cited as part of the loser-hero and college-comedy lineage.

Opening minutes

Private Benjamin

Referenced as another loser-hero comedy and as a prior P.J. Soles film.

Opening minutes

Groundhog Day

Used in discussing Ramis/Murray's later relationship and the long history between them.

About 24 min

Ghostbusters

Named as the point at which Murray likely hit his apex as a star.

About 24 min

Fast Times at Ridgemont High

Mentioned while discussing Judge Reinhold's career and the 80s ensemble ecosystem.

About 48 min

Beverly Hills Cop

Referenced as a comedy/action hit that was less rewatchable for them than the core dorm films.

Opening minutes

Risky Business

Included in the broader early-80s comedy/drama era discussion.

Opening minutes

The Jerk

Cited as the start of the loser-hero comedy era.

Opening minutes

Trading Places

Mentioned as another essential rewatchable and a cousin to this comedy era.

Opening minutes

Arthur

Used in the same early-80s comedy lineage and as one of 1981's bigger box-office hits.

About 24 min

Officer and a Gentleman

Used as a military-school/Army-adjacent comparison and as a future Netflix-show candidate.

About 1:04

Tommy Boy

Referenced as an heir to the loser-hero comedy formula in the 90s.

About 24 min
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

College VHS rotation

Repeated discussion of the handful of comedies everyone owned and watched constantly in college.

Opening minutes

'Loser hero' comedy taxonomy

The hosts keep mapping Stripes onto a larger genealogy of lovable-loser comedies.

Opening minutes

Bill Murray as the ideal guy to hang out with

They repeatedly say Murray seems like the person you'd most want to spend time with.

About 24 min

'Wisconsin' line as a life quote

They treat the 'Wisconsin' exchange as a go-to quote for bad decisions.

About 48 min

Spatula / throwaway-line appreciation

They keep celebrating tiny, toss-off jokes that would be bigger scenes in other movies.

About 48 min

Sean Young versus P.J. Soles debate

A running comparison of the two romantic leads and their on-screen charisma.

About 1:12

Bill Simmons

“It's a little cute.”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“How's it going, Eisenhower?”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“What are you smuggling? Furs.”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“It's like Wisconsin”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“I once got my ass kicked in Wisconsin.”
About 48 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Stripes is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Stripes, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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