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THE REWATCHABLES · December 6, 2022

Man On Fire

A 2004 action / thriller directed by Tony Scott, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionThriller2000sDirected by Tony Scott

ON THIS EPISODE

Overall episode#285Source sheet order
Movie year20042000s
Tomatometer39%Critics’ score
Metacritic47View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorTony ScottAction / Thriller

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Man on Fire is one of the most rewatchable action movies of the last 20 years, driven by Denzel Washington’s performance, Tony Scott’s hallucinatory style, and the emotional bond between Creasy and Pita before the revenge half takes over.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01It works at almost any point in the runtime, whether you jump in during the early relationship scenes or the revenge section. Opening minutes
  2. 02The Creasy-Pita relationship gives the movie emotional stakes that make the kidnapping painful every time. Opening minutes
  3. 03The last hour is an intense revenge run with memorable kills and escalating torture scenes. About 8 min
  4. 04Tony Scott’s style makes even familiar scenes feel inventive and visually alive. About 8 min
  5. 05Christopher Walken’s scenes are fun to revisit on their own. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe movie was initially dismissed as too sentimental up front and too depraved in the back half. About 8 min
  2. minorThe last hour can be a little hard to follow in terms of how Creasy gets from one lead to the next. About 40 min
  3. minorThe ending title cards are unnecessary and slightly weaken the finish. About 32 min
  4. minorRachel Ticotin’s character and some police/journalist behavior strain plausibility. About 40 min · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Denzel and Walken’s first conversations

The early ex-CIA dialogue establishes their shared history and dark humor.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Backseat argument with Pita

Pita pushes back on Creasy being merely a bodyguard, and he sets boundaries.

About 24 min
Favorite

Swimming practice and training montage

Creasy gradually warms to Pita during the swim sequences, which they see as the emotional heart of the movie.

About 24 min
Favorite

Kidnapping sequence

They admire the precise escalation from dog to car to gunfire to abduction.

About 24 min
Favorite

Fuentes house and rocket launcher scene

Creasy enters with a rocket launcher and delivers the 'arrange a meeting' line.

About 32 min
Favorite

Bridge finale in the rain

Creasy brings Pita back in the last emotional stretch and the film reaches its cathartic end.

About 8 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed About 40 min

Is the movie best understood as an action film or a crime drama?

Bill Simmons

Treats it as a great action movie.

Chris Ryan

Also frames it as an action movie, though with strong emotional and artistic qualities.

They partly agreed About 32 min

Did John Wick copy Man on Fire?

Bill Simmons

Says Wick clearly cribbed several elements, especially the damaged-assassin vibe and some set pieces.

Chris Ryan

Agrees that Wick drew from it, though not as a direct parody.

They left it as a friendly argument About 40 min

Would an alternate cast or sequel/prequel version work better?

Bill Simmons

Suggests alternate casting and sequel/prequel ideas could be fun, including a Proof of Life-style universe.

Chris Ryan

Mostly plays along and agrees those versions would be interesting.

12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableDenzel WashingtonBill Simmons: Praised as one of the great movie stars and the reason the film works; Bill calls this maybe his favorite Denzel movie. Opening minutes very favorableTony ScottBill Simmons: Celebrated for making the movie feel surreal, kinetic, and emotionally resonant. About 8 min
very favorableDakota FanningBill Simmons: Held up as one of the great child performances and central to the film’s emotional power. About 16 min
very favorableChristopher WalkenBill Simmons: Praised for scene-stealing dialogue and the Denzel-Walken chemistry. About 8 min favorableTony ScottChris Ryan: Described as going for broke visually while still landing an emotional core. About 8 min criticalRoger EbertBill Simmons: His 2.5-star review is cited as evidence that early criticism missed the movie. About 24 min neutralBrian HelgelandBill Simmons: Mentioned as the screenwriter with a funny anecdote about discovering the source novel through Tarantino. About 16 min · medium confidence
neutralA.J. QuinnellBill Simmons: Named as the author of the original novel. About 16 min
mixedMickey RourkeChris Ryan: Seen as effective but part of a long-running pattern of Rourke being difficult to work with. About 32 min
favorableMarc AnthonyBill Simmons: Praised as surprisingly strong and believable in the Sammy role. About 32 min
mixedRadha MitchellBill Simmons: Praised for being good, but their discussion questions why she was not a bigger star. About 32 min
favorableRory (Rachel) TicotinBill Simmons: Talked up as excellent and underrecognized. About 32 min · medium confidence
14 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Man on Fire as a rewatchable action movie

Says the movie is one of the most rewatchable films of the last 20 years and among his favorite action movies.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Man on Fire vs. other action movies

Says he had to decide what action movie he liked more and places it near the top, only maybe below Fast Five.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Denzel Washington

Argues Denzel’s run from the early 1990s to 2012 is elite and that Tony Scott movies especially matter.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Denzel Washington

Says the movie contains multiple versions of Denzel’s persona and may be his favorite start-to-finish Denzel performance.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Denzel and Walken scenes

Says the Denzel-Walken scenes are mind-blowing and could anchor a whole series.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Bridge finale

Calls the final bridge sequence among his favorite endings of the century and says he always watches it.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Dakota Fanning

Calls her performance one of the great child performances and central to the film’s success.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Tony Scott’s style

Says Scott’s hallucinatory visual approach is crucial and that this is his most trick-heavy film.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Kidnapping sequence

Loves the precision and structure of the kidnapping scene and treats it as film-school material.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Fuentes torture scene

Loves the rocket-launcher confrontation and the line about arranging a meeting with God.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Christopher Walken

Says Walken is great without being too weird and gets one of the movie’s best lines.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Marc Anthony

Argues Marc Anthony is excellent and should have acted more.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Radha Mitchell

Says she was really good and unfairly boxed into wife roles.

About 32 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Denzel Washington

Says Denzel’s floor is higher than almost anyone’s and uses The Siege as proof.

About 24 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Redemption through protection

Creasy is a broken man who finds a reason to live through protecting Pita.

Opening minutes

Violence vs tenderness

The movie combines grotesque revenge violence with an unusually sweet, human center.

About 8 min

Denzel as an all-purpose star persona

They argue Denzel cycles through swagger, grief, alcohol, restraint, and vengeance all in one movie.

Opening minutes

Tony Scott as controlled chaos

Scott’s style is described as hallucinatory but emotionally coherent.

About 8 min

Kid performance as make-or-break

They repeatedly stress that the movie depends heavily on Dakota Fanning being extraordinary.

About 16 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film had a long development history and was originally planned earlier, including an Italian setting.

About 16 min

Production note

The story was relocated from Italy to Mexico City because kidnappings were more current there.

About 16 min

Production note

Tony Scott reportedly used heavy cross-processing and multiple cameras to create the film’s look.

About 8 min

Production note

Dakota Fanning was missing her front teeth during filming, and they left them visible.

About 16 min

Production note

Denzel spent about 10 days training with an advanced weapons specialist.

About 32 min

Production note

Some crew members in Mexico City were robbed at gunpoint, and the production received a special thanks in the credits.

About 32 min

Production note

The film’s original ending reportedly had Creasy detonating a bomb on himself at the voice’s house.

About 32 min

Production note

There was also a deleted sex scene between Creasy and Lisa that would have changed the tone of the movie.

About 32 min

Fast Five

Used as a benchmark for favorite action movies.

Opening minutes

The Searchers

Cited as an influence on the revenge structure.

Opening minutes

Death Wish

Referenced as part of the revenge-movie lineage.

Opening minutes

Point Blank

Named as another tonal/structural ancestor.

Opening minutes

Crimson Tide

Mentioned as one of the Tony Scott/Denzel collaborations.

Opening minutes

Deja Vu

Mentioned as another Scott/Denzel collaboration.

Opening minutes

Training Day

Used as the film that cemented Denzel’s late-career run.

Opening minutes

The Siege

Referenced as proof of Denzel’s unusually high floor.

About 24 min

He Got Game

Named as an early sign of the later Denzel persona.

Opening minutes

Flight

Used as a comparison point for later Denzel work.

Opening minutes

Proof of Life

Used in alternate-universe casting and sequel talk, especially around a Terry Thorne follow-up.

About 40 min

John Wick

Discussed as a later action series that borrows from or echoes this movie.

About 32 min

The Town

Brought up while debating whether the movie should be considered an action film.

About 40 min

Sicario

Mentioned as another Mexico-set action reference point.

About 24 min

Total Recall

Used when discussing Rachel Ticotin’s other notable role.

About 32 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Walken line-reading praise

They repeatedly quote and admire Walken’s line about Creasy’s art being death.

About 24 min

Kidnapping-movie voice card bit

They joke about the ominous opening title-card voice in kidnapping movies.

About 24 min

Racehorse-name bit

They joke that Creasy or Horse on Fire would be great racehorse names.

About 40 min

Denzel as coach/mentor

They imagine Denzel succeeding as a coach or mentor figure in sports or school settings.

About 48 min

Bill’s favorite-action-movie claim

They keep returning to whether this is Bill’s favorite action movie and what that says about his taste.

Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“You don't need a saint. You need somebody.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“forgiveness is between them and God”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“It depends on how good he is at it.”
About 24 min

Chris Ryan

“He is painting his masterpiece.”
About 24 min

Bill Simmons

“This movie fucking rocks.”
Opening minutes

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Man On Fire is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Man On Fire, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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