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THE REWATCHABLES · January 16, 2020

King of New York

A 1990 crime / drama directed by Abel Ferrara, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

CrimeDrama1990sDirected by Abel Ferrara
Overall episode#115Source sheet order
Movie year19901990s
Tomatometer74%Critics’ score
Metacritic66View score
Roger Ebert2/4Original star rating
DirectorAbel FerraraCrime / Drama

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that King of New York is a disruptive, exploitation-leaning crime masterpiece that mattered hugely to 1990s genre cinema. Quentin Tarantino treats it as a formative movie, praising its violence, style, New York setting, casting, and especially Walken and Fishburne, while the group also debates its story problems, thin third act, and some mismatched supporting roles.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The cast is packed with exciting New York actors before their breakout years, which makes the movie fun to revisit. About 8 min
  2. 02Christopher Walken's performance is loaded with strange, unforgettable line readings and menace. About 16 min
  3. 03Lawrence Fishburne's Jimmy Jump is seen as a breakout performance with major energy and style. About 16 min
  4. 04The film's opening sequence and set-piece style announce a singular visual and tonal approach. Opening minutes
  5. 05The movie captures early-1990s New York, hip-hop, and crime-movie crossover energy in a way that later movies copied. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe script has story problems and the third act feels thin after reductions. About 8 min
  2. minorJanet Julian's lawyer character feels out of place in the cast. About 1:12
  3. minorVictor Argo is considered merely fine in a part that deserved more. About 1:12
  4. minorSome action beats, especially the car chase, are a little sloppy. About 48 min
  5. minorSeveral chase and shootout moments stretch plausibility, including the police-funeral assassination. About 1:12

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening limo ride and phone-booth execution

The film's opening violence and camera movement announce its style and world immediately.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Fishburne and Buscemi cocaine scene

A comic, high-energy introduction that showcases Buscemi and Fishburne's chemistry.

About 1:20
Favorite

Walken's reunion with his crew in the limo

The scene shifts from menace to camaraderie and features one of Walken's signature line readings and dance moves.

About 1:28
Favorite

Walken shooting Artie White in the casino/club

A standout revenge beat that leads to one of Walken's most quoted lines.

About 1:28
Favorite

Fried chicken arrest scene

Fishburne's banter with Snipes becomes a quotable, character-defining exchange.

About 1:28
Favorite

Wedding toast scene

Caruso delivers an absurdly funny and very specific cop toast at the reception.

About 1:44
Favorite

Nightclub shootout with Schoolly D

The hip-hop soundtrack and urban chaos create one of the movie's most memorable sequences.

About 48 min
Favorite

Caruso funeral assassination

Walken's surprise attack at the police funeral is treated as a shocking, iconic set piece despite plausibility issues.

About 1:12

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:28

Walken vs. Fishburne as the film's central performance

Quentin Tarantino

Fishburne is the film's true center and the most exciting performance.

Bill Simmons

Walken is the movie in his head, though he respects the Fishburne case.

Sean Fennessey

Leans toward Walken as well.

They partly agreed About 1:20

Whether King of New York could work as a long-form TV remake

Quentin Tarantino

Yes, but the story would need expansion and a longer reign for Frank White.

Bill Simmons

The movie already feels like a strong, compact crime world, but a series version is conceivable.

No final agreement About 56 min

How much the movie influenced The Wire/The Shield

Quentin Tarantino

King of New York feels structurally like The Wire and possibly a precursor to The Shield.

Bill Simmons

He thinks the comparison is plausible but somewhat speculative.

15 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableChristopher WalkenQuentin Tarantino: Praised as terrifying, funny, and uniquely memorable; Tarantino treats this as a peak Walken performance. About 16 min very favorableLawrence FishburneQuentin Tarantino: Tarantino calls this a Brando-level performance and says Fishburne invented the hip-hop gangster. About 16 min favorableDavid CarusoQuentin Tarantino: Viewed as a perfect cop and a strong fit for this role, especially in the wedding-toast and bar scenes. About 32 min favorableWesley SnipesQuentin Tarantino: Seen as effective in a simmering, less showy role that fits the movie's inversion of power. About 32 min favorableSteve BuscemiQuentin Tarantino: Used as an example of the movie capturing rising New York actors before their breakouts. About 8 min
favorablePaul CalderonQuentin Tarantino: Tarantino praises him as a major New York actor and recounts his near-casting as Jules in Pulp Fiction. About 16 min
very favorableAbel FerraraQuentin Tarantino: Held up as a major cult director whose peak ambition and style culminate in this film. About 48 min
neutralNicholas St. JohnQuentin Tarantino: Mentioned as Ferrara's writing partner and the writer behind the script and some dialogue. About 48 min
favorableBiggie SmallsQuentin Tarantino: Referenced as helping make the film iconic by calling himself the black Frank White. About 48 min
favorableJohn KellyQuentin Tarantino: Referenced as Caruso's NYPD Blue character, described as one of the decade's great TV parts. About 40 min
favorableChristopher WalkenQuentin Tarantino: Repeatedly cited as an actor who can make a short supporting role unforgettable and make movies happen. About 16 min
favorableSchoolly DQuentin Tarantino: Praised as an important rap figure whose music and presence give the film authenticity. About 48 min
neutralPete HamillQuentin Tarantino: Mentioned as a classic New York columnist appearing in the Plaza scene. About 40 min
neutralDonald TrumpQuentin Tarantino: Mentioned in a trivia aside about filming at the Plaza Hotel. About 1:12 favorableTeresa RandallQuentin Tarantino: Described as visually compelling and dangerous-looking despite limited dialogue. About 48 min
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

King of New York

Calls it a cinematic masterpiece and a key influence on his own filmmaking outlook.

Opening minutes
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Abel Ferrara

Sees Ferrara as a cult director whose work he followed closely from early films onward.

About 48 min
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Christopher Walken

Believes Walken's performance here is among his best and the movie's nastiest, funniest force.

About 16 min
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Lawrence Fishburne

Argues Fishburne gives a Brando-like performance and should have become a huge leading man sooner.

About 16 min
Quentin TarantinoLiked it

David Caruso

Thinks Caruso is perfectly cast as a tough, arrogant cop, especially in the wedding-toast scene.

About 32 min
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Opening limo / phone-booth execution

Treats the opening run as a statement of the film's whole style and energy.

About 1:12
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Jimmy Jump introduction and test-tube cocaine scene

Loves Buscemi's introduction and the comic, shabby cocaine detail.

About 1:20
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Wedding toast / Caruso speech

Thinks Caruso's wedding toast is one of the great Irish-cop moments in movies.

About 1:44
Quentin TarantinoLiked it

Plaza Hotel dinner scene

Enjoys the old-New-York glamour of the Plaza sequence with columnists and mob figures.

About 40 min
Quentin TarantinoLoved it

Nightclub shootout / Schoolly D sequence

Sees this as one of the movie's greatest moments because the music, energy, and setting all click.

About 48 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Exploitation film vs. art-house crime movie

Tarantino insists the movie sits in exploitation territory with a B-movie, downmarket energy even while it looks polished and features strong actors.

Opening minutes

New York as character

The film is treated as a vivid snapshot of 1990 New York, from the Plaza Hotel to the borough streets and old-school columnists.

About 48 min

Hip-hop gangster aesthetic

They see the movie as inventing or legitimizing a hip-hop gangster mode in crime films.

About 24 min

Moral corruption and competing codes

The film's cops, criminals, and hustlers all operate by unstable rules, making the movie about system failure as much as crime.

Opening minutes

Career-defining star turns

The conversation uses the film to map turning points for Walken, Fishburne, Snipes, and Caruso.

About 16 min
22 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film reportedly had to be cut from nearly two hours to 106 minutes to avoid an X rating.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

Production note

Donald Trump allegedly let Ferrara film at the Plaza for free if Walken posed with Ivana Trump.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

Production note

Ferrara says the movie killed nearly everyone because that is how he felt at the time.

About 1:12

Production note

The opening sequence was shot partly at Sing Sing Prison.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

Production note

Ferrara directed a porn film under a pseudonym called Nine Lives of a Wet Pussy.

About 1:12

Production note

The film's budget was said to be $5.3 million.

About 1:12 · medium confidence

Production note

Tarantino recounts that Fishburne was once in his original Pulp Fiction casting plan alongside Michael Madsen.

About 16 min

La Femme Nikita

Cited as another 1990-era film that broke the 1980s Hollywood mold.

Opening minutes

Goodfellas

Compared to King of New York as a same-year mob movie with a different, more downmarket vibe.

Opening minutes

New Jack City

Described as a more mainstream, watered-down version of King of New York that followed shortly after.

Opening minutes

Ms. 45

Tarantino says this earlier Ferrara film made him a fan of the director.

Opening minutes

Bad Lieutenant

Contrasted with King of New York as more art-house and overtly spiritual.

Opening minutes

Reservoir Dogs

Mentioned as Tarantino's film that was being prepared around the time and as the film whose casting debates mirrored this movie's.

Opening minutes

Pulp Fiction

Referenced in the Fishburne/Jules casting story and later in the audition comparison with Sam Jackson.

About 16 min

The Matrix

Mentioned as the role that eventually gave Fishburne the leading-man stature his team wanted.

About 32 min

NYPD Blue

Used to explain Caruso's eventual breakout and image as a great cop character.

About 40 min

The Wire

Compared to the movie's structure of parallel camps and functioning criminal organizations.

About 56 min

The Shield

Suggested as a later show with some debt to the movie's moral setup.

About 56 min · medium confidence

Do the Right Thing

Referenced as another film that correctly used hip-hop in a movie context.

About 48 min

Once Upon a Time in America

Cited in a trivia note about actor Artie Clay appearing there as well.

About 1:12

Scorsese

Used as a comparison point for Ferrara, especially with New York crime cinema.

Opening minutes

Cimino

Referenced as a major influence on the film's New York style and social world.

About 40 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Walken line-reading worship

The hosts repeatedly imitate and admire Walken's strange cadences and speeches.

About 16 min

Fishburne as future leading man

A long-running argument that Fishburne should have been bigger sooner and that this movie showed it.

About 16 min

Caruso as perfect cop

They keep returning to Caruso's intensity, arrogance, and cop authenticity.

About 32 min

Black Frank White

The Biggie nickname becomes a shorthand for the movie's afterlife and cult status.

About 48 min

The movie's many quotable insults

The conversation keeps circling back to insults like 'fuck you very much' and 'test came back negative.'

About 1:44

Quentin Tarantino

“I love money. I love money.”
About 16 min

Quentin Tarantino

“I feel no remorse.”
About 1:28

Quentin Tarantino

“The test came back negative.”
About 1:44

Quentin Tarantino

“I'm going downtown. Find me a girl.”
About 1:20

Quentin Tarantino

“Fuck you very much.”
About 1:28

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