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THE REWATCHABLES · December 2, 2021

JFK

A 1991 thriller / crime directed by Oliver Stone, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ThrillerCrime1990sDirected by Oliver Stone
Overall episode#231Source sheet order
Movie year19911990s
Tomatometer85%Critics’ score
Metacritic72View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
DirectorOliver StoneThriller / Crime

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A lively, skeptical-but-admiring conversation about JFK as a huge, feverish, culture-shaking movie that is both brilliant and irresponsibly fictionalized. The hosts praise Stone's direction, the performances, the Zapruder-film sequence, and the movie's entertainment value, while debating its fabrications, family scenes, homosexuality portrayals, and whether its conspiracy framework is persuasive.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The Mr. X / Donald Sutherland monologue is treated as one of the movie's defining sequences. About 8 min
  2. 02The Zapruder-film recreation and slow-motion editing are framed as a major moviegoing shock. About 8 min
  3. 03The movie is packed with memorable star cameos and short, explosive scenes. About 8 min
  4. 04Its conspiracy rhetoric invites repeated viewing and endless argument. About 24 min
  5. 05Costner's closing argument and the courtroom set pieces play like major payoff scenes. About 24 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe film makes up too much material and cannot fully justify its fictionalized characters. About 8 min
  2. moderateThe family scenes are seen as unnecessary and badly written. About 1:12
  3. majorIts treatment of homosexuality is described as retrograde and unacceptable. About 1:20
  4. moderateJoe Pesci's performance is seen by some hosts as overcooked and distracting. About 1:44
  5. minorThe movie is too long. About 1:12

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Mr. X monologue

Sutherland lays out the military-industrial conspiracy theory in a long, hypnotic speech.

About 8 min
Favorite

Zapruder film / back and to the left

Stone slows and zooms the assassination footage to force a new, visceral viewing experience.

About 8 min
Favorite

John Candy's one-scene performance

Candy appears briefly and steals the film with his investigative enthusiasm.

About 24 min
mixed

Pesci interrogation scene

Pesci's ranting interrogation is memorable but over the top for some hosts.

About 1:36
positive

Opening/closing argument and the magic bullet explanation

Costner's courtroom explanation of the theory is treated as a key rewatchable sequence.

About 1:52
positive

Gold-painted Tommy Lee Jones sequence

A bizarre but memorable scene that the hosts treat as peak New Orleans weirdness.

About 1:20

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 8 min

How much fictionalization is acceptable in a film about JFK?

Brian Koppelman

Stone shouldn't have had it both ways; the invented characters undercut the truth claim.

Bill Simmons

The movie can still work as a true-story drama even while changing facts.

Sean Fennessey

A narrative film can use composites and devices to reach a larger truth.

No final agreement About 48 min

Who likely killed JFK?

Chris Ryan

Leans toward an intelligence-community / CIA and mob blend.

Sean Fennessey

Suspects the intelligence community broadly, with CIA and mob involvement.

Bill Simmons

Favors a theory that the CIA, mafia, and LBJ each had motive, though he is not certain.

No final agreement About 1:44

Joe Pesci's performance

Bill Simmons

Too much and sometimes distracting.

Sean Fennessey

Stylized and memorable, even if heightened.

Brian Koppelman

Works as part of Stone's fever-dream style, despite the liberties.

They partly agreed About 1:12

The family subplot

Bill Simmons

Could be cut without harming the movie.

Chris Ryan

The scenes show the cost of obsession, though they still feel weak.

Sean Fennessey

They serve the thematic need to show personal sacrifice.

15 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableOliver StoneBill Simmons: Praised as a great screenwriter/director with a huge heat check, but also criticized for reckless fictionalizing. Opening minutes favorableKevin CostnerChris Ryan: Called crucial to the movie's credibility and praised for the closing speech and overall star power. About 1:12 very favorableDonald SutherlandBrian Koppelman: His Mr. X monologue is singled out as the movie's core and one of the great scenes in film. About 16 min very favorableGary OldmanSean Fennessey: Praised as creepy, perfect, and transformative as Oswald. About 1:04 favorableJohn CandyBill Simmons: His brief appearance is treated as a shockingly great one-scene performance. About 24 min mixedJoe PesciBill Simmons: Seen as either great or overdone; the hosts split on his frantic energy and wig. About 1:44 favorableKevin BaconChris Ryan: Viewed as a career-redefining turn, especially in the interrogation scene. About 1:52 very favorableJohn CandyBill Simmons: His one-scene performance is treated as one of the movie's great shocks. About 1:44 favorableTommy Lee JonesBill Simmons: Noted for the gold-paint sequence and for winning the 'wig battle' with Pesci. About 1:20
favorableRobert RichardsonBill Simmons: His cinematography is praised as apex-level work. About 1:20
favorableJohn WilliamsSean Fennessey: His score is praised as amazing and essential to the film's power. About 1:20 criticalWalter CronkiteBill Simmons: Mentioned as furious that Roger Ebert liked the movie. About 1:20 favorableRoger EbertSean Fennessey: His review is quoted as authoritative praise for the film's emotional force. About 1:20
favorableJames ElroySean Fennessey: Referenced as another major JFK conspiracy novelist and thinker. About 24 min
neutralNorman MailerSean Fennessey: Mentioned as someone who followed the JFK trail and concluded Oswald acted alone. About 48 min
9 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

JFK as a heat-check movie

Calls it a massive, improbable, all-in studio swing from Stone.

Opening minutes
Brian KoppelmanLoved it

JFK's scene construction

Says the movie is batshit crazy but packed with killer scenes.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsMixed

factual liberties

Says he likes the movie but is bothered by how much it invents.

About 8 min
Brian KoppelmanLoved it

Mr. X / Donald Sutherland speech

Calls the X scene the heart and head of the movie.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Zapruder film in the courthouse

Says the film makes the audience react like the extras watching Costner.

About 8 min
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Jim Garrison

Argues the movie works best as the story of Garrison trying to make sense of the impossible.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

John Candy's cameo

Treats Candy's one-scene part as an all-time rewatchable payoff.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Costner's credibility

Says Costner at that career moment gave the film huge credibility.

About 1:12
Brian KoppelmanLoved it

Stone's editing and structure

Says the film's 16-minute X sequence is unlike anything he had seen before.

About 16 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Conspiracy versus truth

The episode centers on whether Stone is telling history, counter-myth, or a personal truth about power and secrecy.

About 8 min

Vietnam as emotional origin

Stone's JFK is treated as the culmination of his Vietnam trauma and obsession with national betrayal.

Opening minutes

America's broken promises

The movie is read as a cry that 'Daddy never keeps his promises,' meaning the country betrayed its citizens.

About 16 min

Power, secrecy, and institutions

CIA, military, mafia, and LBJ are discussed as beneficiaries or possible participants in the killing.

About 24 min

Cinema as cultural event

They emphasize that this was a rare movie that sat at the center of public discourse.

Opening minutes
21 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film reportedly cost $40 million and grossed about $205 million.

About 1:20

Production note

JFK won two Academy Awards: cinematography and film editing.

About 1:20

Production note

The film's release helped push the Assassination Records Disclosure Act of 1992.

About 8 min

Production note

Oliver Stone later released JFK Revisited and documentary material about the Zapruder film.

About 8 min

Production note

The movie was shot with a recreated Dealey Plaza in 1963 conditions.

About 1:20

Mentioned with uncertainty

Stone apparently considered Marlon Brando for Mr. X.

About 1:52 · medium confidence

Platoon

Used as one of Stone's Vietnam films and part of his emotional arc into JFK.

Opening minutes

Born on the Fourth of July

Mentioned as Stone's earlier Vietnam-related film.

Opening minutes

Argo

Cited as an example of a true-story film that also changes facts.

About 8 min

The Big Picture

Mentioned when discussing Sean Fennessey's other podcast work.

Opening minutes

Seinfeld

Referenced for popularizing the magic bullet theory in a sitcom episode.

About 1:52

The Trial of the Chicago 7

Used as a comparison for courtroom dramatization and judge portrayal.

About 40 min

Fog of War

Referenced as a documentary that shows bad decisions by powerful officials.

About 40 min

The Unknown Known

Mentioned as the more relevant Errol Morris film for ego-driven power politics.

About 40 min

The Umbrella Man

Mentioned as an Errol Morris short about a Kennedy assassination figure.

About 40 min

Libra

DeLillo novel invoked as another assassination-centered work.

About 24 min

American Tabloid

Recommended as a deep dive into the era and conspiracies.

About 40 min

The Irishman

Used when discussing Bobby Kennedy, mob betrayal, and Pesci's later performance.

About 48 min

Wall Street

Referenced as one of Stone's major films and a comparison point for Costner/Wahlberg style rewatchability.

About 1:04

Dances with Wolves

Used in a Costner career discussion and as a best-picture comparison.

About 1:12

Goodfellas

Mentioned only to argue Dances with Wolves should not have beaten it.

About 1:12
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Gravity bong JFK talk

A college-era memory of smoking weed and debating JFK theories at a friend's house.

About 8 min

Mr. X extended bit

The hosts joke that 'going Mr. X' should mean speaking uninterrupted for a long time.

About 1:44

New Orleans / titty-twister humor

They riff on the film's lurid New Orleans energy and weird costuming.

About 1:20

Half-assed internet research

The show repeatedly jokes about the internet rabbit holes around JFK evidence.

About 56 min

Recasting couch

They imagine alternate casting for Garrison, Ferry, and other roles.

About 1:52

Brian Koppelman

“batshit crazy but it has”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“Daddy never keeps his promises”
About 16 min

Brian Koppelman

“back into the left”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“You've never been fucked in the ass”
About 1:44

Bill Simmons

“Who killed Kennedy? Fuck, man! It's a mystery!”
About 1:44

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

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UNITED STATES

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WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

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