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THE REWATCHABLES · July 5, 2021

Independence Day

A 1996 sci-fi / action directed by Roland Emmerich, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

Sci-fiAction1990sDirected by Roland Emmerich
Overall episode#210Source sheet order
Movie year19961990s
Tomatometer77%Critics’ score
Metacritic59View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorRoland EmmerichSci-fi / Action

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The hosts celebrate Independence Day as a hugely influential, highly rewatchable blockbuster that fused disaster, sci-fi, war, and buddy-cop elements, launched Will Smith into superstar status, and set a template for later tentpole films. They also focus on the film’s human-scale scenes, big visual spectacle, and Bill Pullman’s presidential speech.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Will Smith’s performance and the air-combat/desert sequence are treated as the movie’s most rewatchable stretch. About 32 min
  2. 02Bill Pullman’s speech is described as iconic and emotionally galvanizing. About 32 min
  3. 03The destruction set pieces still feel striking, especially the White House and city vaporization sequences. About 8 min
  4. 04The movie’s mix of genres and human relationships makes even the secondary characters memorable. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateSome supporting material feels unnecessary or overlong, especially Randy Quaid family material and certain side scenes. About 48 min
  2. majorThe sequel is criticized for existing without Will Smith. About 56 min
  3. minorA few characters are seen as too lightly motivated or implausibly compliant in the crisis. About 8 min · medium confidence
  4. minorRandy Quaid’s later real-life weirdness colors his presence in hindsight. About 48 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

White House and city destruction

The first major spectacle set pieces, especially the White House vaporization, are treated as unforgettable and culturally formative.

About 8 min
Favorite

Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum warning the president

They enjoy the growing Goldblum/Smith partnership and the signal explanation scene.

About 32 min
Favorite

Goldblum’s satellite warning and countdown

The countdown and realization that time is running out is described as a classic disaster-movie beat.

About 32 min
Favorite

Will Smith’s air fight and parachute landing

Smith’s dogfight, eject sequence, and alien punch are singled out as the film’s coolest stretch.

About 32 min
positive

Area 51 reveal

The underground secret-base reveal is enjoyed as a satisfying genre scene.

About 32 min
positive

Alien head opening and second alien reveal

The scene of opening the alien head and confronting a hidden second alien is treated as a memorable reveal.

About 32 min
Favorite

Bill Pullman’s speech

The Independence Day speech is treated as one of the movie’s signature scenes and a major emotional peak.

About 32 min
positive

Return landing after the alien mission

The comeback landing and greeting scene is praised as a satisfying victory-beat payoff.

About 32 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 32 min

What is the film’s best rewatchable scene?

Bill Simmons

The speech is the best rewatchable scene because it is iconic and uplifting.

Shea Serrano

Will Smith’s desert sequence is the best because it is the most fun to isolate and rewatch.

Chris Ryan

Leans toward the speech as the strongest scene, while acknowledging the Smith sequence.

They left it as a friendly argument About 24 min

Best movie presidents

Bill Simmons

Prefers Pullman, Kevin Kline, and Michael Douglas among movie presidents, with a fourth slot open.

Chris Ryan

Adds TV figures like Jeb Bartlett and David Palmer if TV is allowed.

Shea Serrano

Prefers presidents who can fight, naming Harrison Ford, Jamie Foxx, and Morgan Freeman.

No final agreement About 48 min

Was President Whitmore a good president?

Bill Simmons

Questions whether Whitmore was good, given delayed evacuations and the nuclear decision.

Chris Ryan

Suggests the implication is that if the alien attack fails, it may not matter.

Shea Serrano

Does not directly defend Whitmore but enjoys the heroic arc and speech.

They agreed About 56 min

Should the sequel have been made without Will Smith?

Bill Simmons

No; the sequel should have waited for Smith and is a mess without him.

Chris Ryan

Agrees the film does not work as a sequel without Smith.

Shea Serrano

Also rejects the sequel as unnecessary and inferior.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableWill SmithBill Simmons: Praised as the movie’s magnetic center, an all-time movie star, and the source of the film’s coolest scenes. Opening minutes favorableJeff GoldblumBill Simmons: Admired for banter, improvisational energy, and his buddy dynamic with Smith. About 8 min very favorableBill PullmanBill Simmons: Praised for his presidential arc, speech, and understated movie-star quality. About 16 min
favorableRoland EmmerichBill Simmons: Credited with pioneering large-scale destruction spectacle and humanized blockbuster storytelling. About 8 min
favorableVivica A. FoxBill Simmons: Her subplot and dog Boomer are briefly praised as memorable supporting material. About 8 min favorableJudd HirschShea Serrano: Liked as a funny, slightly out-of-place presence who feels like he is in another movie. About 40 min favorableRobert LoggiaBill Simmons: Used as an example of the movie’s loaded supporting cast and longtime character-actor run. About 40 min favorableJames RebhornBill Simmons: Celebrated as a quintessential ‘that guy’ with a strong 1990s run. About 40 min mixedRandy QuaidBill Simmons: His role is useful and memorable, but his real-life weirdness and some of his family scenes are criticized. About 48 min favorableHarry Connick Jr.Bill Simmons: Seen as a loud, funny presence whose role adds energy before his character dies. About 40 min favorableMargaret ColinBill Simmons: Praised as a strong supporting actress who may have been overshadowed by TV opportunities. About 40 min
neutralAdam BaldwinBill Simmons: Mentioned as part of the cast without a strong evaluation. About 32 min
neutralKevin SpaceyBill Simmons: Mentioned as the originally intended president before Pullman. About 56 min neutralJada PinkettBill Simmons: Mentioned as having been considered for Vivica A. Fox’s role before scheduling conflicts. About 56 min neutralMatthew PerryBill Simmons: Reportedly nearly played the fighter pilot role but pulled out. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralTears for FearsBill Simmons: Mentioned as the song option originally considered for the ending montage. About 56 min · medium confidence
neutralBill ClintonBill Simmons: Mentioned in relation to the film’s White House screening and 1990s politics. About 40 min neutralSteven SpielbergBill Simmons: Referenced in relation to Emmerich’s influence and blockbuster changing around him. About 8 min · medium confidencefavorableChristopher LloydBill Simmons: Suggested as an ideal casting choice for the Area 51 doctor role. About 56 min
12 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Independence Day as a blockbuster template

Argues the film helped define the modern summer blockbuster by mixing spectacle with human stories.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Marvel influence

Agrees the film’s sense of humor and huge stakes helped shape later franchise movies.

About 8 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

Will Smith’s addition to the cast

Says he would have wanted a second Will Smith added to the movie.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Will Smith

Describes Smith as a superstar with a huge but efficient performance that transforms the movie.

Opening minutes
Shea SerranoLoved it

Will Smith

Says Smith remains one of his favorite movie stars and an automatic draw.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Bill Pullman

Treats Pullman as a near-ideal movie president who starts unsure and becomes iconic.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLiked it

White House destruction and landmark vaporization

Says the scale of destruction was unprecedented and shocking at the time.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

special effects

Argues the effects age well because they still feel tactile and rooted in the 1990s.

About 16 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

Will Smith in the desert with the alien

Calls the alien-dragging sequence the movie’s most fun standalone clip.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The president’s speech

Calls the speech one of the movie’s great rewatchable moments and a source of real motivation.

About 32 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

Landmark destruction

Says seeing iconic buildings destroyed as a teenager was an unforgettable theater experience.

About 32 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Bill Pullman

Says Pullman is good at small looks and quiet comic beats, which explains his durability.

About 24 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Blockbuster evolution

The film is framed as a turning point that helped define the modern summer tentpole and influenced later superhero movies.

About 8 min

Will Smith stardom

The episode treats this as a key step in Smith becoming a singular movie star, with a rare blend of charisma and action hero credibility.

Opening minutes

Presidential fantasy

They repeatedly discuss Bill Pullman as an idealized movie president, including his speech and physical courage.

About 16 min

Scale versus tactility

The movie’s practical effects and 1990s CGI are praised for feeling more tangible than modern digital effects.

About 16 min

Alien/UFO zeitgeist

The hosts connect the film to 1990s alien fascination and today’s more public UFO discussions.

About 16 min
25 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film won the Academy Award for Best Visual Effects.

About 32 min

Production note

The movie made about $817 million worldwide on a $75 million budget.

About 32 min

Production note

A planned Steven Spielberg ride connection never happened.

About 8 min · medium confidence

Production note

The production used more than 3,000 visual-effects shots.

About 56 min

Production note

A 10-by-5-foot White House model was built and destroyed for effects work.

About 56 min

Production note

The ending speech line 'today we celebrate our Independence Day' was added late to preserve the title.

About 32 min

Production note

Most of the Jeff Goldblum and Judd Hirsch dialogue was improvised.

About 56 min

Production note

The film used about 70 mock news broadcasts.

About 56 min

Production note

The movie’s VHS release sold 22 million copies and became the best-selling live-action video at the time.

About 56 min

Production note

Robert Loggia once thought the movie was a spoof after being told to watch Airplane instead of Airport.

About 56 min

Bad Boys

Used as the start of Will Smith’s movie-star run.

Opening minutes

Men in Black

Cited as part of Smith’s superstar streak after Independence Day.

Opening minutes

Enemy of the State

Mentioned as another part of Smith’s four-film star run.

Opening minutes

Marvel films

Used to argue that Independence Day helped establish the tone and scale of later franchise cinema.

About 8 min

Twister

Referenced as part of the 1996 blockbuster wave.

About 8 min

Mission: Impossible

Used as another example of the 1996 blockbuster year.

About 8 min

Jurassic Park

Compared as a precursor and a benchmark for blockbuster spectacle.

About 8 min

Deep Impact

Cited as a disaster-film cousin and point of comparison.

About 8 min

Armageddon

Used as the other major asteroid-disaster comparison.

About 8 min

Godzilla

Mentioned as an Emmerich follow-up and as a movie that felt indebted to Independence Day.

About 16 min

X-Files

Referenced as part of the 1990s alien/UFO resurgence.

About 16 min

Airplane!

Brought up in the Robert Loggia anecdote as a mistaken reference for Airport.

About 56 min

Airport

The intended film reference in the Robert Loggia anecdote.

About 56 min

Top Gun

Referenced in relation to aviation, landing scenes, and movie-flight coolness.

About 32 min

The Day After Tomorrow

Mentioned as another Emmerich disaster spectacle.

About 48 min
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

More Will Smiths

Shea repeatedly jokes that the movie needs a second Will Smith added to the cast.

About 8 min

'This better be good' president

The hosts repeatedly praise the classic setup of a cranky official demanding urgent explanations.

About 40 min

Movie presidents Rushmore

They keep revisiting their preferred fictional presidents and whether TV presidents count.

About 16 min

Will Smith drag-and-talk clip

The Smith desert sequence is treated as a standalone YouTube-worthy bit they can quote and replay.

About 32 min

Alien footage versus human footage

They joke that we can film everything except a clear alien encounter.

About 16 min

Speaker not identified

“Welcome to Earth.”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“This is a bizarrely influential movie.”
About 8 min

Speaker not identified

“Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!”
About 32 min

Speaker not identified

“No, no, no, no oops, no oops.”
About 32 min

Speaker not identified

“What the hell is that smell?”
About 32 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

Checking where Independence Day is available…

WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Independence Day, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
Includes a Rewatchables episodePosters from TMDB.

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