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THE REWATCHABLES · December 22, 2015

Heat

A 1995 crime / drama directed by Michael Mann, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

CrimeDrama1990sDirected by Michael Mann

ON THIS EPISODE

Overall episode#1Source sheet order
Movie year19951990s
Tomatometer84%Critics’ score
Metacritic76View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorMichael MannCrime / Drama

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A very enthusiastic re-discussion of Heat as a near-perfect, deeply rewatchable crime epic. The hosts argue it captures a specific pre-internet era, features elite stars and character actors in their prime, and builds to one of the best action sequences and diner scenes in movie history.
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In this conversation
Bill SimmonsChris Ryan

WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The bank robbery and street shootout are treated as all-time action sequences that demand rewatching. About 8 min
  2. 02It has huge cable rewatch value because it can be revisited in chunks around standout scenes and characters. About 8 min
  3. 03The movie's prime-era casting gives it lasting appeal through performances by De Niro, Pacino, Kilmer, Sizemore, and others. About 16 min
  4. 04The diner scene between Pacino and De Niro is discussed as a major payoff worth the build-up. About 40 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorSome plot lines feel extraneous, especially Natalie Portman and parts of the Dennis Haysbert material. About 24 min
  2. minorA few chase and timing moments stretch plausibility, especially the Wingrove escape and the bank robbery pacing. About 32 min
  3. minorCertain details do not quite hold up logically, such as the pickup-basketball 'where can I get bread' moment. About 40 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening armored-truck heist

The hosts praise the slow build, practical effects, and thunderous sound of the robbery.

About 8 min
Favorite

Downtown bank robbery

Presented as an all-timer action sequence with massive gunfire and escalating chaos.

About 8 min
Favorite

Chop shop/Pacino interrogation

Pacino's erratic energy and improvised-feeling dialogue are celebrated.

About 40 min
Favorite

Diner meeting between Hanna and McCauley

Seen as a brilliantly odd verbal chess match that pays off the whole movie.

About 40 min
Favorite

Final airport/runway chase and hand-touch ending

The ending is described as emotional, visually huge, and musically moving.

About 32 min
critical

Val Kilmer's bread question in the pickup-game scene

Called implausible and one of the movie's more obvious logic problems.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 40 min

Whether the diner scene is won by Pacino or De Niro

Bill Simmons

Pacino edges it because Hanna is more aggressive and extracts more information.

Chris Ryan

De Niro wins or at least does not lose, since McCauley stays cagey and composed.

They partly agreed About 24 min

Whether a modern remake of Heat would work

Bill Simmons

A modern version could be interesting, but internet surveillance would hurt the premise.

Chris Ryan

The movie's old-school, street-level logic is part of why it works.

They left it as a friendly argument About 32 min

Whether Neil should have gone back for Val Kilmer at the end

Bill Simmons

He thinks Neil violates his own 'have no attachments' rule.

Chris Ryan

He accepts the emotional choice and the ending's logic.

16 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableMichael MannBill Simmons: Praised as being in his prime and making what the hosts consider his peak movie. Opening minutes very favorableRobert De NiroBill Simmons: Admired as a top-tier star and excellent in Heat, especially in the diner scene and final chase. Opening minutes very favorableAl PacinoBill Simmons: Praised for his post-Scent of a Woman resurgence and for the showy, memorable Pacino-isms in Heat. Opening minutes favorableVal KilmerBill Simmons: Seen as one of the movie's best pieces of casting and one of the most interesting performances. About 16 min favorableTom SizemoreBill Simmons: Described as delivering his best performance and especially strong in the 'action is the juice' scene. About 16 min favorableAshley JuddBill Simmons: Praised as peak Ashley Judd and central to the film's romantic/domestic thread. About 16 min
favorableDiane VenoraBill Simmons: Her relationship with Pacino's character is discussed as believable and strong. About 16 min
mixedAmy BrennemanBill Simmons: Liked as part of a messy but memorable relationship arc, though the character is seen as making terrible choices. About 16 min favorableHank AzariaBill Simmons: Mentioned as being overwhelmed in the famous Pacino scene, which adds to the moment's comedy. About 40 min favorableJohn VoightBill Simmons: Credited with a character-actor transformation in this film. About 16 min neutralJeremy PivenBill Simmons: Used as an example of the film's many cable-friendly supporting turns. About 8 min
favorableHenry RollinsBill Simmons: Remembered as a notable supporting presence rather than a mere cameo. About 8 min
neutralNatalie PortmanBill Simmons: Her subplot is considered potentially cuttable and more TV-like than central. About 24 min neutralDennis HaysbertBill Simmons: Mentioned as part of a subplot that feels like a television storyline. About 24 min neutralMichael T. WilliamsonBill Simmons: Noted as one of several memorable character actors in the film. About 16 min favorableTed LevineBill Simmons: Described as very cool in the film and part of the ensemble's character-actor strength. About 16 min
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Heat as an all-time favorite

He calls Heat one of his favorite movies ever and a first-ballot hall of famer.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Michael Mann's direction

He argues this is Mann's peak movie and praises its visual style.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

opening truck robbery

He treats the opening heist as breathtaking and one of the movie's signature set pieces.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

bank robbery shootout

He argues the bank robbery scene belongs with the great action scenes ever filmed.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Heat's cable rewatchability

He says the movie lives on through cable because it can be watched in chunks around key scenes.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Tom Sizemore

He calls Sizemore's 'action is the juice' moment a career peak.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Pacino's chop shop sequence

He treats Pacino's improvisatory energy there as extraordinary.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

diner conversation

He sees the diner scene as a central, nearly even matchup but ultimately gives Pacino the edge.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

modern remake possibility

He thinks a modernized Heat could be interesting but worries that internet-era surveillance would undermine the premise.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsMixed

Neil going back for Val Kilmer

He objects to Neil violating the '30 seconds' rule by returning for Kilmer.

About 32 min
4 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Professionalism and process

They admire Mann's focus on work, procedure, and the minutiae of policing and criminal operations.

About 48 min

Prime-era stardom

The film is framed as a convergence of major actors and characters at peak or near-peak moments in their careers.

About 8 min

Pre-internet filmmaking

The episode argues Heat belongs to a time before modern information overload, surveillance, and digital footprints.

About 8 min

Loyalty versus self-preservation

The finale is interpreted as a choice between attachment and the criminal code of cutting everything loose in 30 seconds.

About 32 min
20 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Heat began as a pilot project called LA Takedown.

About 8 min

Production note

The hosts believe the film was one of the first DVDs that made home viewing feel like the theater.

About 8 min

Production note

Bill says he saw Heat in a blizzard in Philadelphia with very few people in the theater.

About 8 min

Production note

They claim the film was originally offered to Pacino and De Niro at Kate Mantilini's.

About 40 min

Production note

The episode emphasizes that many details feel impossible in a modern digital world, especially for criminals trying to disappear.

About 32 min

Goodfellas

Used as part of De Niro's career context and comparison to Heat.

Opening minutes

The Godfather Part II

Referenced because De Niro and Pacino had both been in it, though not in shared scenes.

Opening minutes

Scent of a Woman

Used to describe Pacino's early-90s comeback and his mannered Heat performance.

Opening minutes

Reservoir Dogs

Cited as part of the 90s crime-movie tonal shift Heat arrives amid.

Opening minutes

Pulp Fiction

Referenced as a contemporary crime film whose style Heat resists.

Opening minutes

The Usual Suspects

Mentioned as another 1995 crime film in the same conversation about genre trends.

Opening minutes

Collateral

Used as a later Mann film that echoes Heat's Los Angeles geography.

Opening minutes

The Departed

Mentioned as a surveillance-era crime film to contrast with Heat's analog methods.

About 24 min

The Fugitive

Cited as a cable-friendly movie with a similar second life.

About 8 min

Die Hard

Used as a benchmark for great action scenes.

About 8 min

Predator

Used as another benchmark for action intensity.

About 8 min

Lethal Weapon

Another action benchmark invoked during the robbery discussion.

About 8 min

Homeland

Used as an example of computer-heavy viewing they find less compelling.

About 24 min

The Leftovers

Mentioned as part of Amy Brenneman's later comeback.

About 16 min

Any Given Sunday

Invoked as one of Pacino's later strong performances.

About 56 min
9 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

'No furniture' life lesson

Bill repeatedly returns to the idea that a romantic partner should never date someone who has no furniture.

About 16 min

'The heat around the corner' rule

The hosts riff on the film's central survival maxim: leave everything behind in 30 seconds if the cops are near.

About 32 min

Pacino quote machine

They keep quoting Pacino's improvised-sounding lines and laughing at his delivery.

About 40 min

Cable-channel scene hopping

The hosts joke about tuning in only for specific Heat scenes or supporting appearances.

About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“The action is the juice.”
About 24 min

Speaker not identified

“Because she's got a great ass”
About 40 min

Speaker not identified

“Don't waste my motherfucking time.”
About 40 min

Speaker not identified

“You can get killed walking your doggy.”
About 40 min

Speaker not identified

“Have no attachments.”
About 32 min

MAKE IT A MOVIE NIGHT

Where to watch

UNITED STATES

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WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Heat, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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