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THE REWATCHABLES · March 4, 2019

Forgetting Sarah Marshall

A 2008 comedy / romance directed by Nicholas Stoller, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ComedyRomance2000sDirected by Nicholas Stoller
Overall episode#62Source sheet order
Movie year20082000s
Tomatometer84%Critics’ score
Metacritic67View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorNicholas StollerComedy / Romance

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Forgetting Sarah Marshall may be the best-aged Apatow-era comedy, praising its mix of emotional honesty, improv-driven jokes, strong casting, and Hawaii setting. The hosts treat it as a smart romantic comedy with enough heart and enough absurd supporting bits to stay highly rewatchable.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The breakup-plus-vacation premise is simple, strong, and easy to rewatch. Opening minutes
  2. 02The cast is packed with scene-stealers who can pop in briefly and still energize the movie. Opening minutes
  3. 03The movie balances drama and improv, giving it emotional weight and joke density. Opening minutes
  4. 04Hawaii as a setting adds wish-fulfillment and visual appeal that makes even simple scenes feel bigger. Opening minutes
  5. 05The supporting bits, especially Kunu and the fake TV shows, create memorable running comedy. About 32 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe middle drags a bit and feels about 15 minutes too long. About 8 min
  2. moderateThe Jack McBrayer plotline feels like a detour with little payoff. About 8 min
  3. minorThe hotel suite logic stretches believability. About 32 min
  4. minorRussell Brand's fame level and travel behavior seem implausible. About 32 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening breakup and naked scene

The breakup immediately followed by Peter's naked humiliation is treated as outrageous and memorable.

About 24 min
Favorite

Peter with Bill Hader at the club

Hader's club scene is singled out as one of the funniest and most rewatchable stretches.

About 8 min
Favorite

Dracula musical performance

Peter performs his Dracula musical, and the hosts love the awkward sincerity of the bit.

About 8 min
positive

Surfboard conversation in the ocean

Peter and Aldous meet on surfboards and the ocean scene is praised for its humor and coolness.

About 8 min
positive

Double date goes off the rails

The double date and its collapse toward the end are cited as a key comedic set piece.

About 8 min
Favorite

Jonah Hill's blowup at Russell Brand

Jonah Hill's confrontation with Russell Brand is celebrated as a major laugh sequence.

About 8 min
Favorite

Crime Scene: Scene of the Crime segments

The fake TV-show cutaways with Billy Baldwin are treated as one of the movie's best running jokes.

About 24 min
positive

Animal Instincts segments

The hosts think the absurd animal procedural is another low-key hilarious fake show inside the film.

About 24 min
Favorite

Kunu helping Peter after the coral injury

Russell Brand's hotel-worker friendship with Peter produces a string of favorite lines.

About 8 min
positive

Post-credits and Access Hollywood material

The fake entertainment-news material and post-credits button are praised as clever and authentic to the period.

About 24 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They left it as a friendly argument About 8 min

What is the best rewatchable scene?

Bill Simmons

Largely favors the breakup scene, the Hader club scene, and the Dracula song, with special praise for the access-Hollywood material.

Chris Ryan

Prefers the Bill Hader club scene and the surfboard/ocean material as the most rewatchable.

Sean Fennessey

Highlights the surfboard meeting, the hotel-beach sequence, and the ocean leg-injury stretch.

They partly agreed About 16 min

Whether Mila Kunis or Katherine Heigl should have played the Knocked Up role

Bill Simmons

Thinks Kunis would have been better, and says Heigl is not funny and not enjoyable to watch.

Sean Fennessey

Says Heigl works for that specific part and the film likely needed that exact kind of irritating energy.

Chris Ryan

Does not strongly settle the issue but agrees the casting question is interesting.

They agreed About 32 min

Which actor deserves the Dion Waiters award

Bill Simmons

Initially considers Jonah Hill, Jack McBrayer, and others before landing on Paul Rudd.

Chris Ryan

Pushes toward Rudd because he is perfect in his limited scenes.

Sean Fennessey

Also lands on Rudd, though he notes Jonah Hill is strong too.

They agreed About 40 min

Whether the movie could work as a limited series

Bill Simmons

Asks whether it could be remade as a 10-episode Netflix series.

Chris Ryan

Says no, it works specifically as a movie.

13 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableJudd ApatowBill Simmons: Credited with advising Segel to write the movie as a drama first and with helping define the era. Opening minutes favorableJason SegelBill Simmons: Praised as the star, screenwriter, and emotional center of the movie; his career trajectory and performance are discussed at length. Opening minutes favorableNicholas StollerBill Simmons: Mentioned as the director and later as co-writer with Segel on other projects. About 32 min
favorableKristen BellBill Simmons: Praised as very funny, likable, and crucial to making Sarah Marshall more than a villain. Opening minutes
very favorableMila KunisBill Simmons: Viewed as an A-list-level comedic actress with exceptional likability and a strong run after this film. About 8 min very favorableBill HaderSean Fennessey: Called one of the movie's best scene-stealers and a near-perfect comic presence in every appearance. About 8 min very favorablePaul RuddBill Simmons: Praised for nearly every line as Aldous Snow's more amusing and absurd counterpart to Segel. About 16 min
favorableRussell BrandBill Simmons: Seen as a peak performance in the movie, though his broader cultural image is discussed as dated or awkward. About 24 min
favorableJonah HillBill Simmons: Praised for going hard in a small role and delivering many of the movie's funniest lines. About 8 min
favorableJack McBrayerBill Simmons: Included as part of the movie's deep bench of comic actors, though his subplot is also criticized as expendable. About 8 min
favorableKristen WiigBill Simmons: Mentioned as appearing in a deleted scene that the hosts think should have stayed in the film. About 8 min mixedKatherine HeiglBill Simmons: Discussed as Mila Kunis's competition for the Knocked Up role and as someone Bill dislikes watching on screen. About 16 min neutralCraigBill Simmons: Identified as the producer who recommended the movie and sparked the episode's selection. Opening minutes
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Forgetting Sarah Marshall as an Apatow-era comedy

Argues it may have aged better than other Apatow comedies and is more coherent than a lot of the era's broad comedies.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

The film's structure

Says the movie is trying to say something and is not just a disposable comedy, which helps it endure.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Apatow's writing process

Praises the advice to make the first draft a drama and then add jokes later.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLiked it

Hawaii and wedding openings

Says movies that open with weddings and movies set in Hawaii are almost always appealing.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Kristen Bell's Sarah Marshall

Says Bell's version of Sarah is narcissistic but likable and sympathetic, which keeps the romance working.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Mila Kunis

Argues she is underappreciated and may be one of the most successful comedy actresses of her era.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Mila Kunis and Kristen Bell as universally liked actresses

Says both actresses belong to a rare group that men and women alike seem to like.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The breakup premise

Calls the opening setup—celebrity boyfriend gets dumped and goes to Hawaii—an excellent premise.

About 24 min
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Bill Hader

Says Hader is incredible and may give his best movie performance here.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Paul Rudd

Thinks Rudd is nearly perfect in the role and one of the movie's biggest scene-stealers.

About 16 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Breakup as emotional inversion

The movie flips the usual rom-com setup by making the male lead the emotional wreck and object of sympathy.

About 8 min

Beautiful women paired with goofy men

They discuss the Apatow-era tendency to pair attractive women with schlubby or awkward men and debate how plausible it is.

About 8 min

Celebrity culture and tabloid framing

The film's opening setup and the fake Access Hollywood material satirize celebrity boyfriend culture.

About 24 min

Hawaii as fantasy and discomfort

The setting is both alluring and unsettling; paradise is treated as comforting but also expensive, isolating, and emotionally strange.

Opening minutes

Improvisation within a scripted dramatic skeleton

The movie is praised as a well-structured drama that benefits from heavy improv and fast supporting turns.

Opening minutes
22 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

Jason Segel and Linda Cardellini were broken up, and the movie draws from Segel's own breakup experiences.

About 32 min

Production note

The nude breakup scene did not involve Cardellini, but Segel was actually dumped while naked in one real-life breakup.

About 32 min

Production note

The movie featured a marketing campaign that used 'I Hate Sarah Marshall' billboards and a website.

About 24 min

Production note

Stoller says about 60-70% of the dialogue was scripted and 30-40% was improvised.

About 32 min

Production note

The fake naked image of Mila Kunis was computer-generated, not her body.

About 32 min

Production note

The song 'Inside of You' was written to be the worst song a girlfriend's new boyfriend could sing.

About 32 min

Production note

The waiter who later punches Segel is Kalani Robb, a surfer from Momentum Generation.

About 32 min

Apatow era

Used to describe the broader wave of 2000s comedy movies surrounding the film.

Opening minutes

Knocked Up

Compared as an Apatow-era comedy and discussed in casting what-if terms with Mila Kunis and Katherine Heigl.

Opening minutes

Superbad

Used as another reference point for Apatow-era comedies and their cultural staying power.

Opening minutes

Fletch

Mentioned as the movie they planned to cover next before shifting to this episode.

Opening minutes

How I Met Your Mother

Referenced as Segel's major TV role and the place where many viewers knew him first.

About 16 min

Veronica Mars

Used to explain Kristen Bell's pre-existing TV identity and change in persona.

About 8 min

The Good Place

Mentioned as a later role that fits Kristen Bell's likable-but-annoying persona.

Opening minutes

Ted

Used to support the claim that Mila Kunis had a strong comedy career after this film.

About 16 min

Date Night

Mentioned as another successful comedy in Kunis's later career.

About 16 min

Black Swan

Used as a prestige counterpoint in discussing Kunis's range and career choices.

About 16 min

The Break-Up

Compared as another breakup movie that starts with a breakup but is less rewatchable.

About 8 min

High Fidelity

Cited as the closest tonal comparison for the movie's breakup-and-romance structure.

About 8 min

Kramer vs. Kramer

Mentioned as a breakup/family movie but rejected as a true breakup film comparison.

About 8 min

Anchorman

Used in a debate over Paul Rudd's best role and as a comedy benchmark.

About 24 min

Broadcast News

Promoted as the next Rewatchables episode and praised as an influential love-triangle movie.

About 24 min
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Craig's Fletch bait-and-switch

The hosts joke that Craig led them toward Fletch but got them to watch this movie instead.

Opening minutes

Hawaii tourism fantasy

They repeatedly joke about going to Hawaii for work and about Hawaii being too beautiful to resist.

Opening minutes

Salary cap cast

They compare the supporting cast to a cheap, deep bench that can still score in bursts.

Opening minutes

Kunu / Kaiser Permanente confusion

A recurring joke is Kunu mistaking Peter for someone who works for Kaiser Permanente.

About 24 min

Crime Scene, Scene of the Crime parody

The fake procedurals are recited as if they were real prestige TV, especially Billy Baldwin's lines.

About 24 min

Dick scene discussion

The hosts keep returning to Segel's nude opening and joke about his self-prep and anatomy.

About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“I think it has aged the best”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“This is the emotional puddle”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“Give me crime scene! Give me dirty crime scene girl!”
About 24 min

Bill Simmons

“Mutombo, out of the shot!”
About 32 min

Chris Ryan

“This is the laziest exposition setup ever.”
About 24 min

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