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THE REWATCHABLES · January 9, 2024

Flight

A 2012 drama directed by Robert Zemeckis, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

Drama2010sDirected by Robert Zemeckis
Overall episode#340Source sheet order
Movie year20122010s
Tomatometer77%Critics’ score
Metacritic76View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
DirectorRobert ZemeckisDrama

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Flight is a deeply rewatchable, unusually dark movie that works because of its big set pieces, especially the opening crash, Denzel Washington’s antihero performance, and the tension between moral judgment and practical heroism. The hosts say the film improves on repeat viewings, even though its addiction story, romance, and ending are unsparing and somewhat uneven.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The opening plane crash is described as one of the greatest movie scenes ever and the film keeps paying off on repeat viewings. Opening minutes
  2. 02The middle scenes become richer after repeated viewings, with details and rhythms that the hosts say you only appreciate later. Opening minutes
  3. 03Denzel’s performance makes an unsparing antihero compelling even when he behaves badly. About 8 min
  4. 04The plane-crash sequence is treated as a practical-effects spectacle that is hard to stop rewatching. About 24 min
  5. 05Several scenes are singled out as standalone rewatchable moments, including the hotel-room relapse, Goodman’s entrance, and the hearing. About 48 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe romance between Whip and Kelly Riley does not really work and feels like a different movie. Opening minutes
  2. moderateThe movie can feel uneven and structurally like two films stitched together. Opening minutes
  3. minorThe soundtrack choices are seen as generic or overly obvious. About 56 min
  4. minorSome elements feel implausible, such as how much alcohol is hidden in the hotel minibar and how nobody immediately notices Whip’s condition. About 1:20

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening hotel-room / relapse setup

The film’s opening sexual and drug-fueled setup is treated as unforgettable and hilarious, though socially awkward to watch.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Plane crash sequence

The crash is repeatedly called one of the greatest and most terrifying film scenes ever, with practical-looking effects and precise cockpit action.

About 24 min
positive

Hospital wake-up after the crash

Whip waking up bloodied and realizing the crash outcome is praised as a strong button to the set piece.

About 40 min
positive

Cancer patient stairwell scene

The brief conversation with the dying cancer patient is singled out as a deep heart-of-the-movie moment.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Funeral confrontation with Margaret

Goodman’s blunt instruction to Whip at the funeral is cited as one of the movie’s funniest and best scenes.

About 8 min
Favorite

Second hotel-room discovery

Whip finding the minibar and relapsing again is framed as a classic, inevitable, tension-building sequence.

About 56 min
positive

NTSB hearing / Cheadle pressure scene

The hearing material is praised as a great scene of legal pressure, sobriety, and self-delusion.

About 48 min
Favorite

Plane-inverted rescue

The inverted flight toward the church is described as a visually unforgettable, intensely engineered moment.

About 24 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 8 min

Is Whip a hero or a criminal?

Bill Simmons

Legally, he may be partially protected, but morally he was still doing something wrong.

Chris Ryan

He is a results-driven hero because he saved 96 people and the people around him owe him gratitude.

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Does the romance with Kelly Reilly work?

Bill Simmons

No, the love story does not work and belongs to a different movie.

Chris Ryan

Its failure is part of the point because Whip cannot have a normal happy ending.

No final agreement About 32 min

Is Kelly Reilly Oscar-worthy?

Bill Simmons

She should have been nominated over some competitors.

Chris Ryan

She is good but not clearly better than the other contenders, especially Amy Adams.

They partly agreed About 1:44

Are the religious/purgatory readings real or just fan theory?

Chris Ryan

The symbolism and oddities make a purgatory reading feel plausible and illuminating.

Bill Simmons

He likes the idea but does not commit to it as the only interpretation.

They agreed About 1:44

Which movie has the more overused Rolling Stones needle drop?

Bill Simmons

Sympathy for the Devil is more overused.

Chris Ryan

Also votes Sympathy for the Devil, though he notes Gimme Shelter appears in many films too.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableDenzel WashingtonBill Simmons: Praised as the movie’s center and as delivering one of his best, bravest late-career performances. About 8 min favorableRobert ZemeckisBill Simmons: Credited with making an intense, practical-feeling film and a memorable crash sequence. About 16 min very favorableJohn GoodmanChris Ryan: Loved for the huge, scene-stealing entrance as the drug dealer/banana boat figure. About 48 min favorableDon CheadleBill Simmons: Praised as the grounded counterweight who forces Whip to face reality. About 48 min
mixedKelly ReillyBill Simmons: Appreciated for her presence, but her romance with Whip is judged ineffective and somewhat underused. Opening minutes
favorableBruce GreenwoodBill Simmons: Liked in the hearing and hospital material as a sturdy supporting presence. About 24 min
favorableMelissa LeoBill Simmons: Mentioned positively in the supporting cast and as part of the film’s strong ensemble. About 24 min · medium confidence
favorableTamara TunieBill Simmons: Praised for her role as Whip’s wife/partner in the judgment scenes. About 40 min
favorableNadine VelasquezBill Simmons: Remembered for the opening hotel-room scene and discussed as a memorable casting choice. About 56 min
neutralJames Badge DaleBill Simmons: Mentioned as part of the crash aftermath and hospital material. About 8 min
favorableBrad GrayBill Simmons: Quoted as arguing that studios should still make movies like Flight alongside franchises. About 16 min
favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Referenced for a very positive review calling the crash terrifying and Denzel brave. About 48 min neutralBradley CooperBill Simmons: Named as a fellow 2012 Oscar nominee in the best actor conversation. About 24 min neutralHugh JackmanBill Simmons: Mentioned among the 2012 Oscar acting nominees. About 24 min neutralJoaquin PhoenixBill Simmons: Named in the 2012 best actor Oscar field. About 24 min very favorableDaniel Day-LewisBill Simmons: Used as the benchmark against which Denzel’s Oscar performance is compared. About 24 min favorableAmy AdamsChris Ryan: Mentioned in a debate about whether Kelly Reilly should have been nominated instead. About 32 min
favorableJohn GatinsBill Simmons: Credited for writing a screenplay the hosts find unusually strong and original. About 1:12
neutralCliff RobertsonBill Simmons: Mentioned as the lead of The Pilot, another alcoholic-pilot movie. About 56 min · medium confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Flight

Calls it a definitionally rewatchable Saturday-afternoon movie with great scenes and a hard-to-turn-off momentum.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLiked it

Flight

Says repeated viewings help because the movie’s odd structure and details become clearer over time.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Whip Whitaker

Argues that Whip is a true antihero who cannot be cleaned up into a conventional likable lead.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

The funeral confrontation

Loves the scene where Goodman’s character tells Whip what to say and forces him to confront his debt.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Denzel Washington

Places this performance on Denzel’s Mount Rushmore and calls it among his very best.

About 24 min
Chris RyanLoved it

The plane crash

Treats the crash as an almost singular practical-effects achievement that still feels impossible.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Legality versus morality

Argues the movie’s tension comes from Whip being legally protected but morally compromised.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

The hotel-room relapse

Says the hotel-room discovery sequence is one of the best 10 minutes of the decade.

About 56 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

John Goodman

Delights in Goodman’s drug-dealer performance as a scene-stealing comic eruption.

About 48 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Flight

Says the movie’s religious and symbolic reading makes the odd parts click more than a literal reading does.

About 1:44
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Antihero morality versus legal innocence

The hosts separate what Whip legally deserves from what he morally deserves and argue the movie is about that tension.

About 8 min

Addiction as self-destruction

The film is treated as an intense, unsparing look at alcoholism and cocaine use rather than a glamorized story.

About 8 min

Faith and providence

The hosts repeatedly read religious symbolism into the film, especially the baptism imagery and the alarm set for 7:14.

About 48 min

Practical filmmaking and effects

The crash is praised as a practical-feeling set piece that looks physically real and unforgettable.

About 24 min

The cost of heroism

Whip saves nearly everyone, but the movie insists that the rescue does not erase his damage or the consequences of his life.

About 8 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The episode says Flight was loosely inspired by the 2000 crash of Alaska Airlines Flight 261.

About 1:44

Production note

The hosts say Flight made about $161.8 million on a $31 million budget.

About 48 min

Production note

Denzel was nominated for Best Actor and the screenplay was also nominated, but Zemeckis was not nominated for Best Director.

About 48 min

Production note

John Goodman is noted as sober since 2007 in real life.

About 1:44

Production note

Denzel reportedly takes scene partners to eat before filming bed scenes.

About 1:44

Production note

The alarm clock in the movie is set to 7:14, which the hosts connect to a Bible verse.

About 1:44

Production note

The airline community is described as being unhappy with the film’s portrayal of pilots.

About 1:44

Production note

The hosts say the movie’s best supporting-cast performance is probably Goodman’s.

About 1:44

Training Day

Used as the obvious comparison for Denzel’s antihero work and his earlier peak.

About 8 min

Breaking Bad

Mentioned as part of the antihero TV landscape around the film’s release.

About 16 min

Don Draper

Another antihero-era comparison point.

About 16 min

Cast Away

Compared to Flight as another Zemeckis movie that got better on cable and with repeat viewings.

About 16 min

Alive

Cited as another survival/air-crash film in the plane-movie conversation.

About 24 min

Fearless

Mentioned as a companion survival drama and as a possible double feature.

About 24 min

The Edge

Included in the list of survival movies for comparison.

About 24 min

Sully

Referenced as a plane-disaster film, but distinguished from Flight because of its perspective.

About 24 min

The Dark Knight

Used as an example of a set piece that feels iconically real and practical.

About 24 min

Jurassic Park

Another benchmark for a practical-feeling visual effect moment.

About 24 min

The Matrix

Referenced for bullet-time as another singularly memorable movie effect.

About 24 min

United 93

Mentioned as a film one host refuses to watch, despite acknowledging it is well made.

About 32 min

Contact

Used in a side debate about Zemeckis’s filmography and big-idea cinema.

About 32 min

The Master

Referenced in the Oscar supporting-actress comparison and the Amy Adams debate.

About 32 min

Django Unchained

Mentioned as the film that won best original screenplay over Flight.

About 24 min
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Banana Boat / Banana Man

A running joke centers on Goodman’s character as the ‘banana boat’ guy who brings in coke and rescues Whip from withdrawal.

About 48 min

Cocoa Puff

They repeatedly use ‘Cocoa Puff’ as a shorthand for cocaine and for Goodman’s drug-fueled intervention.

About 48 min

Results-driven motherfucker

Bill turns Whip’s heroism into a sports-style results argument, praising outcomes over process.

About 8 min

Drunk flight / party plane joke

The hosts joke about drunk pilots, drunk flight attendants, and a designated party flight.

About 1:44

Mystical Bill / Contact defense

Chris teases Bill for rejecting Contact and pushes him toward a more cosmic interpretation.

About 32 min

‘Big dog’ banter

Goodman’s scene becomes a source of repeated ‘big dog’ and ‘player’ riffing.

About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Do not touch the merch, motherfucker!”
Opening minutes

Chris Ryan

“It's the banana boat, motherfucker!”
About 1:20

Bill Simmons

“There is nothing but a come down after that plane crash.”
Opening minutes

Chris Ryan

“As soon as you realize that the random events”
About 1:12

Bill Simmons

“I never had to suck dick”
About 1:04

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