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THE REWATCHABLES · May 12, 2020

Crimson Tide

A 1995 war / action directed by Tony Scott, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

WarAction1990sDirected by Tony Scott
Overall episode#139Source sheet order
Movie year19951990s
Tomatometer89%Critics’ score
Metacritic66View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorTony ScottWar / Action

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Crimson Tide is a near-perfect, highly rewatchable 1990s thriller built on a tight script, two star performances, and Tony Scott’s propulsive direction. The hosts admire its escalation, sub-movie tension, and the Denzel Washington/Gene Hackman showdown, while also noting a few late-movie choices that do not fully land.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The script is praised as an 'and then' construction where almost every line and gesture pays off later. Opening minutes
  2. 02The Denzel-Hackman faceoff creates constant tension and makes the movie feel like a long confrontation rather than a delayed payoff. Opening minutes
  3. 03Tony Scott’s direction and Hans Zimmer’s score make submarine imagery and movement feel exciting rather than static. Opening minutes
  4. 04The movie keeps escalating into memorable scenes that are easy to revisit immediately after the film ends. Opening minutes
  5. 05The final stretch is described as an unassailable burst of suspense and payoff, especially the radio confirmation sequence. Opening minutes

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorThe film has very few female characters and is noted as failing the Bechdel test. Opening minutes
  2. moderateHackman's late-film pivot into overt racism is described as strange and not fully satisfying. Opening minutes
  3. moderateThe reconciliation after nearly causing nuclear catastrophe feels too easy and unrealistic. Opening minutes
  4. minorBringing the dog on the submarine and the logistics around that detail seem implausible or distracting. Opening minutes

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

First Hackman-Denzel meeting

Their early encounter establishes the film's core power dynamic and cautious mutual sizing-up.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Officers' mess / von Clausewitz discussion

A workplace-style conversation that reveals the men’s philosophical and racial tensions without explicit confrontation.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Kitchen fire and missile drill

The decision to run the drill during a fire is treated as the first major spark in the conflict.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Silver Surfer argument

A pop-culture debate that feels very Tarantino and adds texture to life on the sub.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Relieving Hackman / mutiny scene

The chain-of-command confrontation where Denzel removes Hackman as captain and the ship fractures.

Opening minutes
positive

Sub-on-sub torpedo exchange

A classic action-movie beat where the submarine appears doomed before surviving a near-miss.

Opening minutes
positive

Viggo/Gandolfini tension scene

Support players add menace and momentum as the crisis hardens.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Final radio verification / no-launch ending

The ending builds through a tense wait for confirmation and then lands on the revealed truth of the message.

Opening minutes

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed Opening minutes

Who won the movie: Denzel, Hackman, or Tony Scott

Bill Simmons

Denzel Washington wins because the film crystallizes his rise to mainstream stardom.

Sean Fennessey

Could be Tony Scott or Hackman, but Denzel is the cleanest choice.

Chris Ryan

Denzel is also the right pick because he is the movie's breakout center.

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Is Hackman's final racist turn effective

Bill Simmons

He is not fully sure it works and thinks it pushes too far.

Sean Fennessey

Also questions the choice and whether it makes sense dramatically.

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Best most rewatchable scene

Bill Simmons

The final confrontation and radio confirmation sequence is the best stretch.

Chris Ryan

The first mutiny is the most rewatchable because of the overlapping dialogue and escalation.

No final agreement Opening minutes

Submarine-movie hierarchy

Bill Simmons

Crimson Tide may be the best submarine movie or at least is neck-and-neck with Hunt for Red October.

Sean Fennessey

The rewatchable answer is Hunt for Red October or Crimson Tide, depending on what you prioritize.

They partly agreed Opening minutes

Would the movie work as a TV series

Sean Fennessey

It might work if structured in real-time 24-style episodes.

Bill Simmons

Probably not; the film works best as a two-hour movie.

19 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableDenzel WashingtonBill Simmons: Praised as an elite star in a transitional phase toward mainstream movie-stardom; his subtle performance is singled out as one of his best. Opening minutes very favorableGene HackmanBill Simmons: Viewed as a masterful screen presence whose small gestures and self-regard drive the movie's tension. Opening minutes very favorableTony ScottSean Fennessey: Celebrated as the director who makes a submarine thriller visually thrilling and structurally airtight. Opening minutes favorableQuentin TarantinoBill Simmons: Discussed as one of the key writers who punched up the script and helped shape the film's dialogue. Opening minutes favorableRobert TowneSean Fennessey: Cited as part of the elite script-punch-up team behind the film. Opening minutes
favorableSteve ZalianBill Simmons: Named as one of the credited screenwriters who contributed to the script's strength. Opening minutes
favorableViggo MortensenChris Ryan: Praised as young, baby-faced, and important to the film's internal tension. Opening minutes favorableJames GandolfiniChris Ryan: Enjoyed as a scenery-chewing early villainous presence whose energy amplifies the movie. Opening minutes favorableHans ZimmerChris Ryan: Praised for a score that makes submarine movement and military tension feel big and kinetic. Opening minutes favorableDon SimpsonBill Simmons: Discussed as part of the film's high-concept, cocaine-fueled producer machine behind the project. Opening minutes favorableJerry BruckheimerBill Simmons: Credited as the producer who helped sell the film's giant premise and star pairing. Opening minutes neutralVal KilmerChris Ryan: Mentioned as someone who was offered a role and later regretted declining it. Opening minutes favorableAl PacinoBill Simmons: Imagined as a possible Hackman replacement, with the hosts joking that he would have played the role even more explosively. Opening minutes neutralTom CruiseBill Simmons: Mentioned as a possible early casting contender for Denzel's role. Opening minutes neutralBrad PittBill Simmons: Discussed in casting what-ifs and as part of the era’s star pairing logic. Opening minutes neutralTommy Lee JonesSean Fennessey: Suggested as a plausible alternative for the Hackman role. Opening minutes favorableRobert TowneBill Simmons: Cited again as part of a script rewrite call that typifies the film's producer-driven development. Opening minutes
neutralGeorge DzundaBill Simmons: Mentioned for his long character-actor resume and odd filmography. Opening minutes
neutralRick SchroederBill Simmons: Referenced as a distinctive supporting player who goes hard in the hatch-close sequence. Opening minutes
9 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Crimson Tide

Calls it a satisfying, perfect, and highly rewatchable movie with remarkable structural precision.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Crimson Tide

Describes it as one of the most enjoyable movies ever made and a top-tier rewatchable.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

Crimson Tide

Says it is a longtime favorite and a movie he is always excited to revisit.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Denzel Washington

Argues that this film helped establish Denzel as a true mainstream star and one of the greats.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Gene Hackman

Treats Hackman as an actor younger peers wanted to work with because of his master-class presence.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

first mutiny / first major confrontation

Says the first mutiny sequence is the movie's best and most rewatchable stretch.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

final radio confirmation sequence

Treats the last minutes as the most suspenseful and complete payoff in the film.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Tony Scott's directing

Argues Scott turns a submarine into a visually exciting, modern action space.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

the script

Says the screenplay is effectively perfect and functionally teachable as a model of escalation.

Opening minutes
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Chain of command vs. individual judgment

The movie’s central conflict is whether a commander should question orders or obey them without hesitation.

Opening minutes

Masculine workplace power struggle

They frame the submarine as an intense all-male workplace movie where status, ego, and respect are constantly negotiated.

Opening minutes

Star persona as narrative engine

The casting of Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman is treated as inseparable from the movie’s tension and meaning.

Opening minutes

Tony Scott’s style evolution

The hosts treat Crimson Tide as a bridge between Scott’s cleaner early work and his later, more kinetic style.

Opening minutes

Submarine as contained thriller space

The movie is admired as a claustrophobic but visually dynamic submarine thriller that stays exciting through movement and editing.

Opening minutes
20 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film is described as being the product of a huge number of screenwriters and punch-ups.

Opening minutes

Production note

The movie's score by Hans Zimmer reportedly won a Grammy and has been widely used in sports broadcasts.

Opening minutes

Production note

The U.S. Navy withdrew cooperation after learning the script involved a mutiny.

Opening minutes

Production note

Robert Towne reportedly dictated a rewrite over the phone to Simpson and Bruckheimer.

Opening minutes

Production note

Denzel Washington reportedly wanted to be 'jousting with a master' when he took the role.

Opening minutes

Production note

The film was initially offered to Val Kilmer and considered for Al Pacino, Brad Pitt, and Tom Cruise in various roles.

Opening minutes

Run Silent, Run Deep

Cited as a 1950s submarine precursor with a similar captain-versus-captain dynamic.

Opening minutes

Mutiny on the Bounty

Used as a structural model for the mutiny storyline.

Opening minutes

The Caine Mutiny

Referenced as a classic comparison point for the captain/mutiny premise.

Opening minutes

Heat

Used as a benchmark for a great confrontation scene and for 1995 competition.

Opening minutes

A Few Good Men

Used as a comparison for courtroom/authority energy and to contrast Jack Nicholson's Colonel Jessup with Hackman.

Opening minutes

Enemy of the State

Mentioned as another Tony Scott movie that continues his stylistic evolution.

Opening minutes

Man on Fire

Used as part of Tony Scott's later stylistic arc with Denzel.

Opening minutes

Top Gun

Referenced as a prior Simpson-Bruckheimer naval hit that the Navy supported.

Opening minutes

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Used for the Brad Pitt dog joke and as a Tarantino-related touchstone.

Opening minutes

The Departed

Cited as a later example of star/director pairing as a selling point.

Opening minutes

NYPD Blue

Rick Schroder is joked to have used this film to land a role on the show.

Opening minutes

Frasier

Used in the discussion of Jack Russell terriers as a pop-culture pet benchmark.

Opening minutes

Hunt for Red October

Compared as a submarine-film rival and possible peak rewatchable rival.

Opening minutes

Steve McQueen / The Thomas Crown Affair?

Not directly named; omitted to avoid unsupported inference.

Opening minutes · low confidence
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Seal the bay

The phrase is repeated as a noisy, jokey refrain tied to Rick Schroder's performance.

Opening minutes

Chewy rating for pets

They invent a pet-performance scoring system using Jack Russell Terrier 'Chewys.'

Opening minutes

Don Simpson phone-call rewrite joke

They riff on Simpson demanding script fixes at absurd hours and in absurd style.

Opening minutes

Al Pacino Captain Ramsey impersonation

The hosts repeatedly imagine Pacino yelling lines as Hackman's character.

Opening minutes

Mutiny logistics / coaching analogies

They compare the submarine mutiny to sports, coaching, and front-office power struggles.

Opening minutes

Chris Ryan

“What do you think of Crimson Tide?”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“It is Chekhov's every single line”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“Mr. Hunter, I've made a decision”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“We're here to preserve democracy”
Opening minutes

Chris Ryan

“You don't put on a condom”
Opening minutes

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WHAT TO WATCH NEXT

Movies to watch before and after.

Three movies to watch before Crimson Tide, and three to watch next.

Finding six movies…Three to watch first and three to watch next.
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