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THE REWATCHABLES · December 18, 2018

Con Air

A 1997 action / thriller directed by Simon West, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ActionThriller1990sDirected by Simon West
Overall episode#52Source sheet order
Movie year19971990s
Tomatometer59%Critics’ score
Metacritic52View score
Roger Ebert3/4Original star rating
DirectorSimon WestAction / Thriller

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

A highly enthusiastic defense of Con Air as an absurd but expertly assembled action movie, with special praise for Nicolas Cage, John Malkovich, John Cusack, and the film’s big comic set pieces. The discussion blends sincere admiration with jokes about its legal logic, violence, and outrageous plotting.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Cusack’s inmate introduction/scouting-report sequence is treated as the clear standout rewatchable scene. About 8 min
  2. 02Nicolas Cage’s performance and hair/mullet run are presented as peak Cage entertainment. About 8 min
  3. 03The movie’s huge action set pieces and comic absurdity make it endlessly replayable. About 8 min
  4. 04A stacked cast of committed character actors elevates the ridiculous material. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe Cameron Poe legal outcome is described as absurd and under-explained. Opening minutes
  2. moderateThe Sally Can’t Dance character/bit is called rough and age-poorly. About 32 min
  3. moderateThe insulin subplot for Baby-O/Michael T. Williamson is seen as stale and overused. About 32 min
  4. moderateThe plan’s command structure and security setup are portrayed as implausible. About 32 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Rainstorm bar fight and Cameron Poe’s manslaughter arrest

The hosts revisit the absurd opening confrontation that sends Poe to prison and joke about the legal logic.

Opening minutes
Favorite

Cusack’s inmate scouting report introduction

Cusack narrates the prisoner roster and the hosts call it the movie’s best scene.

About 8 min
Favorite

Convict takeover of the plane

The coup aboard the Jailbird is praised for its energy, villainy, and comic set-up.

About 16 min
Favorite

Crouch fight scene

The hosts laugh about the unusual low crouch fight and its close-quarters choreography.

About 16 min
Favorite

Second-plane / boneyard sequence

The airfield chaos, fuel tanks, and exploding plane are singled out as a big crowd-pleasing sequence.

About 16 min
Favorite

Buscemi’s prison-philosophy monologue

Buscemi’s extended speech about insanity and work is admired as unexpectedly eloquent and darkly funny.

About 32 min
critical

Las Vegas Strip landing

The final landing is treated as one of the film’s biggest plausibility problems, though the group still enjoys it.

About 32 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 8 min

Best Nicolas Cage peak film

Bill Simmons

Con Air is Cage’s apex and possibly the best movie ever made.

Chris Ryan

The Rock is also in the discussion, but Con Air is Cage’s defining action performance.

Shea Serrano

Con Air belongs at the top because it is a perfect flying-prison movie.

No final agreement About 40 min

Whether John Cusack seems above the material

Bill Simmons

He is excellent and the movie benefits from him playing smart against chaos.

Chris Ryan

He seems frustrated, like his agent made him do it, and slightly too good for the part.

They partly agreed About 48 min

The Rock as a comparison point

Bill Simmons

The Rock is the earlier benchmark but Con Air surpasses it for Cage performance.

Chris Ryan

Con Air is the more purely Cage-driven movie, while The Rock is a separate benchmark.

No final agreement About 56 min · medium confidence

Predator as an action-movie Mount Rushmore pick

Chris Ryan

Predator belongs on the Mount Rushmore.

Shea Serrano

He is less sure Predator qualifies for Mount Rushmore status.

They left it as a friendly argument About 56 min · medium confidence

Casting alternatives for a modern Con Air

Bill Simmons

Suggests modern actors like Chris Hemsworth could fill the roles.

Chris Ryan

Proposes Miles Teller or Timothée Chalamet-style casting in a joking reboot scenario.

16 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableNicolas CageBill Simmons: Praised as the movie’s star attraction and perhaps his best performance, especially for his accent, physicality, and post-Oscar run. Opening minutes very favorableJohn MalkovichChris Ryan: Celebrated as a terrifying, funny, fully committed villain whose dialogue and delivery carry huge scenes. About 8 min favorableJohn CusackBill Simmons: Praised for the scouting-report sequence and for being the grounded observer inside the chaos, though one host thinks he seems above the material. About 8 min favorableSteve BuscemiBill Simmons: Praised for his prison-philosophy speech and offbeat menace/comedy. About 32 min favorableDave ChappelleChris Ryan: Seen as very funny and unexpectedly strong, though his role is also noted for racist material that has aged badly. About 32 min favorableDanny TrejoBill Simmons: Liked as Johnny 23, with his tattooed serial-rapist villainy treated as memorably extreme. About 8 min criticalColm MeaneyChris Ryan: Mocked for overacting as the DEA agent and overwhelming scenes with exaggerated intensity. About 40 min favorableRachel TicotinBill Simmons: Viewed positively as the female guard figure and an overlooked performer in the movie. About 48 min · medium confidence
neutralSimon WestBill Simmons: Cited as the director of Con Air and part of the movie’s production context. About 8 min
favorableJerry BruckheimerBill Simmons: Referenced as the producer whose style and title-in-dialogue instincts are praised. About 8 min neutralDon SimpsonBill Simmons: Mentioned in relation to Bruckheimer making the film without him. About 8 min · medium confidencefavorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Referenced approvingly for giving the film three out of four stars and being on a good run of agreement with the hosts. Opening minutes
neutralTrisha YearwoodBill Simmons: Mentioned as the singer whose version of the song was used. Opening minutes
neutralLeAnn RimesBill Simmons: Mentioned as the earlier singer associated with the song before the final version was selected. Opening minutes · medium confidence
favorableDenzel WashingtonBill Simmons: Used hypothetically as a star who could have played a role in a Con Air-style cast. About 56 min · medium confidencefavorableRobert Downey Jr.Chris Ryan: Discussed as an alternate casting possibility who might have been slightly too cool for one of the roles. About 48 min · medium confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Con Air as an all-time great movie

Opens by calling it the best movie ever made and says he was blown away on rewatch.

Opening minutes
Shea SerranoLoved it

Con Air’s premise

Argues the flying-prison premise alone pushes it above canonical prestige films.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanLoved it

John Malkovich as Cyrus

Sees Malkovich as the key to the movie’s quality because he is both funny and terrifying.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Cusack’s inmate introduction scouting report

Treats the U.S. Marshals briefing sequence as the best rewatchable scene.

About 8 min
Shea SerranoLoved it

plane takeover by the convicts

Chooses the convicts’ takeover and the surrounding chaos as his favorite scene cluster.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Cage killing the bar fighter in the rainstorm

Enjoys the opening self-defense fight as a huge, ridiculous inciting scene.

Opening minutes
Chris RyanMixed

The Rock versus Con Air

Argues Con Air is Cage’s defining action role, even while acknowledging The Rock as the earlier rival landmark.

About 48 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Bruckheimer’s title-in-dialogue habit

Loves when the title gets spoken inside the movie and connects that to Bruckheimer’s style.

About 40 min
Chris RyanLiked it

John Cusack

Likes Cusack as the smart, slightly exasperated guy who can steer a dumb movie.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

the film’s cast

Says the movie works because strong actors fully buy into the ridiculous material.

About 32 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Absurd-but-serious action design

The movie is loved because it plays ridiculous ideas straight with big energy and polished craft.

Opening minutes

Star power and actor commitment

The hosts argue the film works because strong actors commit hard to absurd roles.

About 8 min

90s action-movie evolution

They discuss the shift from bodybuilder action stars toward actor-led action movies.

About 24 min

Criminals vs. righteous hero

The film repeatedly frames Cameron Poe as good and the others as despicable to justify the violence.

Opening minutes

Comedy through excess

Much of the enjoyment comes from visual overkill, dialogue, and set-piece escalation.

About 24 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film made about $224 million on a $75 million budget.

Opening minutes

Production note

Con Air received Oscar nominations for Best Original Song and Best Sound.

Opening minutes

Production note

Jerry Bruckheimer produced the film as his first without Don Simpson.

About 8 min

Production note

The title is spoken in the movie, which the hosts identify as a Bruckheimer hallmark.

About 40 min

Production note

The movie was originally intended to end with the plane crashing into the White House.

About 1:04

Production note

The crash site was filmed at the Sands Hotel before demolition.

About 1:04

Production note

A crew member named Phil Schwartz died when a model plane fell on him during filming.

About 1:04

Production note

Chappelle said on DVD commentary that he improvised most of his lines.

About 1:04 · medium confidence

The Godfather

Used as a prestige comparison that Con Air supposedly beats because it has an airplane prison.

Opening minutes

Citizen Kane

Mentioned alongside The Godfather as a film Con Air supposedly outranks in pure enjoyment.

Opening minutes

Lethal Weapon

Referenced as another example of a character being treated as a lethal weapon.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

The Rock

Used repeatedly as Cage’s other major 1990s action benchmark.

About 8 min

Face/Off

Cited as part of Cage’s legendary action run.

About 8 min

In the Line of Fire

Mentioned as another John Malkovich villain role.

About 24 min

Runaway Jury

Referenced as an example of Cusack playing a smart, talkative character.

About 24 min · medium confidence

Heat

Referenced for the line about going to ball games and work-life dissatisfaction.

About 32 min

Hannibal

Mentioned as another movie where someone picks handcuffs with a pin.

About 16 min · medium confidence

The Raid 2

Referenced as a place with another close-quarters fight style, unlike Con Air’s crouch fight.

About 16 min · medium confidence

Miami Vice

Cited as shorthand for stylish but inadequate legal/police advice and for a kind of DEA swagger.

Opening minutes · medium confidence

This Is Us

Mentioned in Liz Kelly’s intro as a parody video on the Ringer YouTube page.

Opening minutes · low confidence

Mile 22

John Malkovich is brought up as being in it, with a hesitant thumbs-up from Chris.

About 40 min · medium confidence

American Badass

Referenced in relation to Kid Rock and Cameron Poe-like imagery.

About 40 min · medium confidence

Dangerous Minds

Used to identify the actor Rinaldi Santiago as the little guy from that film.

About 48 min
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Airplane prison hype

The hosts repeatedly revel in the absurdity of a prison plane and use it to beat prestige cinema comparisons.

Opening minutes

“Better with Danny Trejo, Steve Buscemi, or Michael K. Williams” category

They invoke the show’s recurring casting heuristic and note this film already includes two of the three.

Opening minutes

“Dear Casey” letters

They joke about Cage writing many letters to his daughter and treat the prison-crying/writing montage as funny.

About 16 min

Needle-in-the-hand escape trick

They marvel at the needle in the hand and handcuff-picking as an easy-movie-logic bit.

About 16 min

“Put the bunny back in the box”

The line is treated as the episode’s signature quote and a classic Cage delivery.

About 1:04

“One of them’s me, the other’s not you”

Bill and Shea repeat the line as a favorite tough-guy quote, with Shea especially enjoying it.

About 1:04

Bill Simmons

“I think this is the best movie ever made.”
Opening minutes

Shea Serrano

“It's an airplane prison. It's a flying jail.”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“put the bunny back in the box”
About 1:04

Bill Simmons

“there's only two men I trust”
About 1:04

Chris Ryan

“What if I told you insane was working”
About 32 min

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