A nostalgic but pointed discussion of Can't Buy Me Love as a foundational, highly ripped-off 1980s teen movie about popularity, self-betrayal, and teenage status games. The hosts admire its pace, iconography, and influence while also flagging dated, offensive elements and some structural flaws.
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01It crystallizes the 'do anything to be popular' teen-movie formula that later films copied. Opening minutes
02It has a series of iconic scenes and lines that are easy to revisit and quote. About 32 min
03Its 1980s look and teen-movie atmosphere remain vivid and pleasurable on rewatch. About 16 min
04Amanda Peterson and Patrick Dempsey are unusually compelling as leads, making the movie easy to root for. About 8 min
WHAT DID NOT WORK
Their main criticisms
majorThe movie uses offensive language and dated stereotypes, including repeated slurs and an ugly 'special ed' insult. About 48 min
moderateThe women's locker room scene feels implausible and male-gazey. About 48 min
minorSome scenes and supporting performances are weak or unnecessary, especially Ronald's dinner-table report-card scene and Bobby's acting. About 56 min
moderateThe movie is structurally flawed and imperfect despite the strong premise. Opening minutes
SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO
Standout moments
Favorite
Rental agreement in the telescope scene
Ronald offers Cindy $1,000 to date him so he can become popular.
About 24 min Favorite
Car wash poem scene
Cindy reads a terrible poem and Ronald mistakenly doesn't realize she likes him.
About 24 min Favorite
Airplane graveyard date
Ronald takes Cindy to an airplane graveyard, which they both think is a great date idea.
About 32 min Favorite
African Anteater Ritual dance
Ronald's awkward dance accidentally becomes cool and defines the film's comic peak.
About 32 min Favorite
Cindy's exposure of Ronald
Cindy reveals the truth about the deal, humiliating Ronald and the social climbers around him.
About 32 min Favorite
Kenneth's 'you shit on my house' confrontation
Kenneth explodes at Ronald after the prank, producing the film's most quotable line.
About 32 min Favorite
Final cafeteria speech and handshake
Ronald defends Kenneth, rejects the social hierarchy, and the movie climaxes in a slow clap and handshake.
About 40 min
WHERE THEY DISAGREED
The biggest debates
They agreed Opening minutes
Whether the film is foundational or just derivative
Bill Simmons
Foundational, because it created the popularity-buying template that later movies copied.
Juliet Litman
Agreeing, but emphasizing how many later teen films explicitly reworked or sanitized it.
They partly agreed About 8 min
Whether Patrick Dempsey is a good or odd celebrity hang
Juliet Litman
Questions whether he has evidence of being a fun, cool celebrity.
Bill Simmons
Treats him as charming but notes a very strange personal history.
They partly agreed About 32 min
Most rewatchable scene
Bill Simmons
Chooses Kenneth's 'you shit on my house' confrontation.
Juliet Litman
Initially leans toward that scene but says the dance is also a contender.
They agreed About 40 min
What aged best: the lead car and fashion vs. other elements
Bill Simmons
The Volkswagen Cabriolet, Cindy's clothes, and the movie's setting still look great.
Juliet Litman
Agrees that the fashion and aesthetic have held up well.
They partly agreed About 1:04
How to imagine a modern remake or sequel
Bill Simmons
Suggests a sequel with Patrick Dempsey as an adult parent.
Juliet Litman
Prefers a darker prestige-TV version with reversed genders and heavier stakes.
12 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorablePatrick DempseyBill Simmons: Praised as breakout-star material whose career later revived through Grey's Anatomy and Sweet Home Alabama. About 8 min
very favorableAmanda PetersonBill Simmons: Admired as charming, likable, and the movie's standout performer, though her life story is discussed as tragic. About 8 min