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THE REWATCHABLES · August 18, 2020

Caddyshack

A 1980 comedy / sports directed by Harold Ramis, covered in the complete Rewatchables archive.

ComedySports1980sDirected by Harold Ramis
Overall episode#157Source sheet order
Movie year19801980s
Tomatometer73%Critics’ score
Metacritic48View score
Roger Ebert—No review recorded
DirectorHarold RamisComedy / Sports

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode argues that Caddyshack is an incoherent but wildly rewatchable comedy whose improv, casting, and golf-course setting made it endure for decades. The hosts praise its density of jokes, its influence on golf culture, and especially the performances of Ted Knight and Bill Murray, while also noting the movie’s cocaine-fueled production chaos and some aged-worst elements.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Packed with quote-worthy lines and tiny background jokes that reward repeat viewing. About 8 min
  2. 02The movie’s golf-course setting made its language and bits part of golf culture. About 8 min
  3. 03Bill Murray’s Carl Spackler scenes feel timeless and work for both kids and adults. Opening minutes
  4. 04The film’s improvised, sketch-like scenes create repeated discoveries on rewatch. About 16 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. moderateThe film is incoherent and feels like a series of sketches rather than a true movie. Opening minutes
  2. minorThe gopher effect is considered dated and unfunny by the hosts. About 56 min
  3. moderateMaggie is seen as a weakly written and unnecessary character. About 56 min
  4. minorThe pregnancy subplot and some plot mechanics are called unnecessary or illogical. About 56 min
  5. minorSome of the movie’s racial/sexual humor and the later use of Caddyshack lines by golf announcers have aged badly. About 48 min · medium confidence

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Ty Webb teaching Danny on the course

Early Ty-Danny banter about drugs and golf is treated as pure gold.

About 24 min
Favorite

Country club dinner / Al Cervic entrance

Dangerfield’s machine-gun insults and the Judge’s absurd outfit are singled out as huge laughs.

About 24 min
Favorite

Baby Ruth in the pool

The candy-bar reveal is described as the original money-shot gag that stunned theaters.

About 24 min
Favorite

Ty and Lacey’s date

Ty’s bizarre, coked-out flirtation with Lacey is praised as a precursor to Fletch.

About 32 min
Favorite

Cinderella story / bishop sequence

Bill Murray’s announcer riff and the bishop joining the round are treated as iconic back-to-back moments.

About 32 min
Favorite

Ty and Carl in the cottage

Their improvised interaction is highlighted as a once-in-a-lifetime comic collision.

About 32 min
Favorite

Smails kid nose-picking bet

The hosts treat the child’s nose-picking and eating as one of the funniest bits in the film.

About 32 min
Favorite

The Dalai Lama story

Bill Murray’s surreal monk story is singled out as maybe the movie’s funniest scene.

About 48 min
mixed

Carl washing golf balls / women on the course

The scene is funny but also noted as offensive and weirdly sexual.

About 48 min · medium confidence
critical

Judge Smails' collapse sequence

The judge is repeatedly humiliated, including lightning, betrayal, and the final loss.

About 48 min · medium confidence

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 1:12

Who won the movie

Bill Simmons

Ted Knight wins because the role is the hardest and most essential.

Sean Fennessey

Bill Murray wins in cultural impact and personal preference, though Ted Knight may win the movie itself.

Craig Horlbeck

Ted Knight wins.

They left it as a friendly argument About 1:04

Whether Cocaine can be described as having Apex Mountain

Sean Fennessey

Suggests cocaine was creatively central to the movie’s chaotic production.

Bill Simmons

Jokes that cocaine is on Apex Mountain because it fueled the film.

They partly agreed About 56 min

Whether the gopher works

Bill Simmons

It does not work and is one of the film's weaker ideas.

Sean Fennessey

Mostly accepts it as a dated part of the movie, but not a favorite.

No final agreement About 1:04 · medium confidence

Who should have played Judge Smails / Dr. Beeper / Lacey

Bill Simmons

A number of alternate casting ideas are floated, including Ted Danson or Harvey Korman for Smails and Michelle Pfeiffer or Bo Derek for Lacey.

Sean Fennessey

Generally agrees casting was delicate and that some swaps would change the movie significantly.

16 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
favorableChevy ChaseBill Simmons: Bill calls this his favorite Chevy performance and says it is basically the audition tape for Fletch. Opening minutes favorableRodney DangerfieldSean Fennessey: Presented as a breakthrough movie role and one of his most iconic performances. Opening minutes
very favorableTed KnightSean Fennessey: Sean says Ted Knight may be his favorite character ever and later argues he won the movie. Opening minutes
very favorableBill MurrayBill Simmons: Praised for having the funniest material and one of the greatest comedy performances in the movie. Opening minutes favorableHarold RamisBill Simmons: Credited as a key comedy architect and as a first-time director whose looseness helped the movie. About 8 min
mixedDoug KenneyBill Simmons: Described as a major comedy force whose original vision was altered and who later died tragically. About 8 min
neutralBrian Doyle-MurrayBill Simmons: Mentioned as co-writer and part of the comedy lineage behind the film. About 8 min
criticalJohn PetersBill Simmons: Discussed as a powerful producer behind the film and the source of a bad Cindy Morgan story. About 56 min
favorableCindy MorganBill Simmons: Praised as funny and memorable as Lacey Underall, though her career is framed as damaged by the production story. About 48 min
favorableMichael O'KeefeBill Simmons: Seen as a solid Danny Noonan who can hold his own opposite Chevy Chase. About 1:04
neutralMickey RourkeBill Simmons: Mentioned as an alternate casting choice for Danny Noonan. About 1:04 favorableMichelle PfeifferBill Simmons: Discussed as an alternate Lacey Underall who declined the role because of nudity. About 1:04 neutralDon RicklesBill Simmons: Mentioned as an alternate for Al Cervic and compared to Rodney Dangerfield. About 1:04 · medium confidence
neutralPink FloydBill Simmons: Mentioned as a music choice Ramis wanted but did not get. About 1:04
favorableKenny LogginsBill Simmons: Praised for the theme song, which Bill says still works great. About 48 min
neutralChris NashawatyBill Simmons: Credited for writing a book and sports-illustrated piece about the film. About 24 min · medium confidence
10 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Caddyshack as his desert-island DVD

Calls Caddyshack the one comedy he would take to a desert island and says it is endlessly rewatchable.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Caddyshack as a film versus an amazing movie

Argues that it is not a great film but is an amazing movie and the pinnacle of post-Animal House comedy.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Bill Murray's Carl Spackler performance

Says Murray's material is maybe the funniest in the movie and that the performance has huge cultural mileage.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Ted Knight

Says Ted Knight may be his favorite movie character ever and praises his performance repeatedly.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The movie’s influence on golf culture

Argues the movie changed how people talk and behave on golf courses more than any other sports movie.

Opening minutes
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Carl Spackler and Ty Webb scenes

Says the Carl-Ty material is a rare, near-mythic pairing and one of the movie’s great pleasures.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Ty Webb’s first golf lesson with Danny

Chooses the early Danny-and-Ty scenes as an all-time rewatchable stretch.

About 24 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Judge Smails / Ted Knight

Says Ted Knight wins the movie because the character is essential and hardest to play.

About 1:12
Sean FennesseyLoved it

Bill Murray

Says Murray wins in terms of cultural influence and personal preference even if Ted Knight wins the movie itself.

About 1:12
Craig HorlbeckLoved it

Ted Knight

Agrees Ted Knight won the movie after being prompted by the hosts.

About 1:12 · medium confidence
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Snobs vs. slobs

The movie is framed as blue-collar mischief inside a country-club world.

Opening minutes

Comedy improvisation

The hosts emphasize the cast’s comedy backgrounds and live riffing as central to the film’s success.

About 16 min

Cocaine and creative chaos

The production is described as drug-fueled, with cocaine helping create the film’s chaotic energy.

About 8 min

Rewatchable sports movie structure

Despite the chaos, the golf match gives the movie a simple competitive framework.

About 16 min

Generation-spanning comedy

The film is presented as a bridge from 1970s comedy to later generations of viewers.

Opening minutes
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The film was inspired by Brian Doyle-Murray and Harold Ramis's caddying experiences.

About 1:12

Production note

Carl Spackler was not in early drafts of the script.

About 1:12

Production note

The production reportedly involved heavy cocaine use and taking per diems in cash.

About 24 min

Production note

Cindy Morgan's Lacey Underall dive was stunt-doubled because she couldn't see without her contacts.

About 1:12

Production note

Michael O'Keefe stopped playing golf for about 25 years after the movie because people kept recognizing him.

About 1:12

Production note

Scott Colomby and Cindy Morgan dated for two years after filming.

About 1:12

Production note

John Barmon Jr., who played Spalding Smails, later became a realtor in Boston.

About 1:04

Production note

The movie was shot over 11 weeks in Florida in 1979.

About 1:12

Animal House

Used as the benchmark for National Lampoon comedy and as a point of comparison for Caddyshack's lineage.

Opening minutes

Blues Brothers

Cited as another major summer 1980 comedy and as a film whose scenes still matter despite coherence issues.

Opening minutes

Airplane!

Listed alongside Caddyshack and Blues Brothers as a key summer 1980 comedy.

Opening minutes

Fletch

Used to describe Chevy Chase’s Caddyshack performance as a prototype for his later character.

Opening minutes

Ghostbusters

Mentioned as a stronger overall Bill Murray movie than Caddyshack.

Opening minutes

Groundhog Day

Named as another possible peak Bill Murray film in the comparison.

Opening minutes

What About Bob?

Another Bill Murray comparison title in the apex discussion.

Opening minutes

Stripes

Used as a comparison for Bill Murray's career peak and immediate post-Caddyshack run.

Opening minutes

The Great Santini

Cited as Michael O'Keefe's other major sports/character film and a reason he was a strong Danny Noonan choice.

About 1:04

Porky's

Used for comparison to the movie's raunch-comedy era and Scott Colomby's career.

About 8 min

The Blues Brothers

Later revisited as a film that now feels incoherent but still has great scenes.

About 8 min

The Mary Tyler Moore Show

Used as Ted Knight's career benchmark and legacy context.

About 8 min

Too Close for Comfort

Mentioned as Ted Knight's post-Caddyshack renaissance vehicle.

About 32 min

Top Gun

Referenced through Kenny Loggins’ soundtrack work and Bill’s earlier discussion of him there.

About 48 min

Tin Cup

Used as a comparison point for golf-movie endings and Michael O'Keefe's golf credibility.

About 40 min
12 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Noonan chant

The repeated 'Noonan' chant is treated as an enduring cultural joke.

About 48 min

Well, we're waiting

Ted Knight's deadpan line is celebrated as a meme-worthy quote.

About 40 min

How about a Fresca

Judge Smails’ condescending offer is discussed as a classic insult line.

About 32 min

Big hitter, the Lama

Bill Murray’s Dalai Lama routine is treated as an iconic recurring reference.

About 48 min

Pool and a pond

Ty Webb's house line about having both is held up as a perfect throwaway joke.

About 32 min

Billy Baroo

The special putter becomes a funny recurring golf talisman.

About 48 min

Rat farts

The bishop’s lightning-struck curse is singled out as a memorable running joke seed.

About 32 min · medium confidence

Bill Simmons

“This steak still has marks”
Opening minutes

Bill Simmons

“You take drugs, Danny? Every day”
About 24 min

Bill Simmons

“The heavy stuff's not gonna come down”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“I got that going for me, which is nice”
About 48 min

Bill Simmons

“Well, we're waiting”
About 40 min

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