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THE REWATCHABLES · September 1, 2025

American Gangster

A 2007 crime / drama movie directed by Ridley Scott—and decision no. 71 in the Hanks–Cruise tape.

CrimeDrama2000sDirected by Ridley Scott
American Gangster2007MOVIE
Podcast episode#410No. 421 overall
Movie year20072000s release
Tomatometer81%No. 58 of 128 tracked
Metacritic76View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
State of the raceHanks led by 136–35 · 0 ties

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

The episode frames American Gangster as an overstuffed but highly rewatchable crime movie that blends 1970s New York atmosphere, Denzel Washington swagger, Russell Crowe procedural grit, and a stacked cast. The hosts admire its density, iconic scenes, and hangout quality while also arguing it should have focused more narrowly on Frank Lucas or Richie Roberts.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01Dense scene-to-scene momentum makes it easy to jump in anywhere. About 8 min
  2. 021970s New York atmosphere and production design create a lived-in world. About 8 min
  3. 03Denzel Washington's controlled but dangerous performance gives the film rewatch value. About 8 min
  4. 04Josh Brolin's Trupo is a scene-stealing antagonist. About 8 min
  5. 05The movie is packed with memorable set pieces, especially Frank's confrontations and the tango shooting. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. majorThe film is overstuffed and probably should have focused more on Frank Lucas or more on Richie Roberts, not both equally. About 8 min
  2. moderateThe Richie Roberts family/custody material feels unnecessary and weakens the movie. About 16 min
  3. moderateSome supporting historical portrayals are weak, especially the fake Ali/Frazier/Wilt scenes. About 16 min
  4. moderateArmand Assante's mafia boss performance is too exaggerated for the role. About 16 min
  5. moderateThe film's truth-claims are shaky and were widely challenged. About 16 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Opening: Frank burns a man and the movie launches

The film starts with Denzel shooting a burning man, immediately setting the tone.

About 16 min
Favorite

Trupo and Richie recover the stolen money

Richie and his partner debate what to do after finding nearly a million dollars in a trunk.

About 16 min
Favorite

Tango confrontation and shooting

Frank's showdown with Tango ends in a street execution that the hosts call iconic.

About 8 min
Favorite

Frank freaks out at his own party

Frank loses his composure when family and status collide at the party.

About 16 min
mixed

Ali-Frazier fight sequence

The film uses the famous fight as a key historical moment, but the fake athlete casting is mocked.

About 16 min
Favorite

Plane search and coffins

The search of the plane and the heroin-filled coffins is treated as a major procedural set piece.

About 16 min
Favorite

Final church confrontation and arrest montage

The ending with Amazing Grace and the mass arrests is praised for scale and payoff.

About 16 min
Favorite

Richie and Frank final interview scene

The final back-and-forth between Frank and Richie is admired for its intelligence and tension.

About 16 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They partly agreed About 8 min

Should the movie have centered Frank Lucas or Richie Roberts?

Van Lathan

More Frank, less Richie.

Bill Simmons

More Frank or a smaller Richie role would improve it.

Chris Ryan

Either a stronger Trupo movie or a Frank-focused movie could have worked better.

They partly agreed About 16 min

Is Russell Crowe too small or deferential in the film?

Bill Simmons

Crowe feels underwritten because the role was expanded for star power.

Van Lathan

He should have leaned harder into being a bigger character.

Chris Ryan

The performance works, but it feels like a favor to Denzel's side of the movie.

They agreed About 8 min

Would the movie work better with more Trupo?

Bill Simmons

Yes, Brolin's character could have been the whole movie.

Van Lathan

Yes, the Trupo crew and corruption thread are strong enough for more screen time.

They partly agreed About 8 min

Was the film's ending too abrupt or too reconciled?

Chris Ryan

The ending is oddly compressed, but the final conversation is strong.

Van Lathan

The film needs more time to reconcile Frank's fall.

Bill Simmons

The final stretch is doing too much character repair at once.

They agreed About 16 min

How accurate is the movie?

Bill Simmons

Very loosely based on reality; the movie makes things up freely.

Van Lathan

The truth claims caused backlash and undercut the film's reputation.

Chris Ryan

The development story and reality were constantly being reshaped in production.

17 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableDenzel WashingtonBill Simmons: Praised as magnetic, controlled, and still operating at a high level across decades. About 8 min favorableRussell CroweBill Simmons: Liked for his Richie Roberts performance, though the hosts think the role may be too small or too deferential. About 16 min very favorableJosh BrolinVan Lathan: Highlighted as a scene-stealer and one of the movie's biggest winners. About 8 min favorableRidley ScottChris Ryan: Credited for the film's visual atmosphere, but also blamed by Van for making it too sprawling. About 8 min favorableSteven ZaillianBill Simmons: Discussed as the writer whose script went through many versions before the final film. About 32 min
favorableT.I.Bill Simmons: Used as an example of the movie's 2007-era casting and hip-hop crossover energy. About 16 min
favorableCommonBill Simmons: Mentioned as one of the notable rapper-actors in the cast. About 16 min favorableCuba Gooding Jr.Chris Ryan: Liked as a drunk, slippery Nicky Barnes; the hosts enjoy his energy in the role. About 16 min
favorableIdris ElbaVan Lathan: His Tango character's death is treated as one of the film's signature scenes. About 8 min
mixedCarla GuginoBill Simmons: Seen as good but underserved by the screenplay and the marriage plot. About 8 min criticalArmand AssanteChris Ryan: Considered miscast as a mafia boss and too over-the-top. About 16 min favorableTed LevineBill Simmons: Noted as a welcome presence in the police ranks. About 8 min favorableRoger EbertBill Simmons: Referenced for giving the movie a four-star review and praising its ending. About 16 min
neutralJay-ZChris Ryan: Cited because he made an American Gangster album inspired by the film. About 16 min
neutralRZABill Simmons: Mentioned in cast and trivia talk, including his character and the guitar Crowe gave him. About 16 min
favorableJohn OrtizChris Ryan: Liked as a great recurring 'that guy' presence, especially as Jake/partner material. About 16 min
neutralEric BanaMentioned only indirectly in a Miami Vice comparison and not discussed as a subject here. About 16 min · low confidence
11 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Chris RyanLoved it

American Gangster

Frames the movie as a mashup of favorite crime-movie ingredients, 1970s New York, and great casting.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

American Gangster

Sees it as a very fun hang, even if it falls short of a great single-shape masterpiece.

About 8 min
Van LathanMixed

American Gangster

Wants a tighter movie centered more on Frank Lucas than Richie Roberts.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Frank Lucas

Likes Denzel's cool, controlled Frank, but thinks the movie leaves too much character development for the end.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLoved it

Tango shooting

Treats Tango's death as the defining scene that keeps living in the movie's memory.

About 8 min
Van LathanLoved it

Josh Brolin

Sees Brolin as a borderline movie-stealer whose Trupo is perfect at this career stage.

About 8 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Frank freaks out at his own party

Thinks Frank's meltdown at the party is one of the movie's best sequences.

About 8 min
Chris RyanLiked it

Ridley Scott's direction

Admires Scott's visual texture and New York atmosphere, even while acknowledging the film's structural issues.

About 8 min
Van LathanDid not like it

Proof of Life

Uses Crowe's earlier filmography as an example of why the Richie role feels underpowered here.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Denzel Washington

Positions Denzel as a long-running star whose work here is part of a larger 'Denzel Incorporated' era.

About 16 min
Chris RyanLiked it

American Gangster

Thinks the movie is one of the best hangout-style crime movies because there's so much going on in each scene.

About 8 min
5 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

Crime as capitalism

The hosts read the movie as more about economic systems, supply chains, and business than simple gangster mythology.

About 16 min

Corruption and law enforcement

The cops are depicted as corrupt, predatory, and often as criminal as the drug dealers.

About 8 min

Identity and family pressure

Frank's loyalty to family and his discomfort with status symbols drive much of the drama.

About 16 min

Vietnam and the drug pipeline

The Golden Triangle/Vietnam connection is treated as one of the movie's most interesting historical threads.

About 8 min

Denzel as movie-star institution

The episode uses American Gangster to mark the start of Denzel as an 'entity' or franchise-level star.

About 16 min
23 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The episode is framed as The Rewatchables' 400th movie.

Opening minutes

Production note

The film reportedly went through multiple directors and versions, including Fincher, De Palma, and Fuqua.

About 32 min

Production note

The movie had a $100 million budget and made $269 million worldwide.

About 16 min

Production note

The film received two Oscar nominations: Art Direction and Ruby Dee for Supporting Actress.

About 16 min

Production note

Roger Ebert gave the movie four stars.

About 16 min

Production note

The movie was part of an early accuracy backlash campaign.

About 16 min

Production note

Russell Crowe gave RZA a mint-condition 1961 Gretsch guitar.

About 16 min

Production note

Frank Lucas's driver in real life was Melvin Combs, Diddy's father.

About 16 min

Heat

Used as the original spark for The Rewatchables and as a comparison for American Gangster's density and star power.

Opening minutes

French Connection

Part of CR's mashup description of American Gangster's influences.

About 8 min

Scarface

Referenced as one of the crime-movie touchstones American Gangster evokes.

About 8 min

Goodfellas

Used as a comparison point for gangster-movie energy and structure.

About 8 min

The Godfather Part II

Mentioned as part of the model for ambitious gangster epics.

About 8 min

Heat

Also referenced as a tonal comparison for the film's production hype and star pairing.

About 8 min

Miami Vice

Used to compare the feeling of hearing about a star director/star actor combination that seems unreal.

About 8 min

Proof of Life

Referenced in Crowe filmography and gossip discussion.

About 32 min

Man on Fire

Cited as one of the high points in Denzel's 2000s run.

About 24 min

Inside Man

Referenced as part of Denzel's strong 2000s streak.

About 24 min

The Wire

Mentioned as a higher-standard TV comparison for drug-world stories.

About 16 min

Narcos

Used as another TV example of nuanced drug-kingpin storytelling.

About 16 min

The Sopranos

Referenced in an aside about prestige TV and actor work.

About 16 min

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Used as a comparison for recreating period New York/Los Angeles streets and set dressing.

About 16 min

The Great Train Robbery

Referenced through a later joke about cinematic gun-pointing and early film history.

About 24 min · medium confidence
10 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

Bangkok Craig

Craig gets repeatedly teased for his enthusiasm about the Bangkok/Golden Triangle material, culminating in the nickname 'Bangkok Craig.'

About 24 min

Denzel Incorporated

The hosts joke about Denzel as a stand-alone studio or corporate entity rather than just an actor.

About 16 min

Blue magic / coke jokes

Repeated jokes connect the movie's product names, coffee sugar, and drug-language to ongoing bits.

About 24 min

Can I interest you in Bangkok?

CR keeps returning to the Bangkok/Golden Triangle material as the movie's most tantalizing missing subplot.

About 8 min

All-white cast rewrite

A long running joke imagines an all-white recasting of the film with absurd replacements.

About 24 min

Bill Simmons

“There's five fucking movies in here”
About 8 min

Chris Ryan

“Can I interest you in a quick scene in Bangkok?”
About 8 min

Bill Simmons

“I just immediately grew a Josh Brolin mustache”
Opening minutes

Van Lathan

“You bought that shit”
About 16 min

Bill Simmons

“I didn't know you spoke Thai”
About 24 min

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Bill Simmons headshotBill Simmons125 tracked appearances · 56 H / 64 C / 5 ties
Chris Ryan headshotChris Ryan77 tracked appearances · 36 H / 38 C / 3 ties
Van Lathan headshotVan Lathan36 tracked appearances · 11 H / 23 C / 2 ties

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