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THE REWATCHABLES · June 30, 2025

After Hours

A 1985 noir / comedy movie directed by Martin Scorsese—and decision no. 62 in the Hanks–Cruise tape.

NoirComedy1980sDirected by Martin Scorsese
After Hours1985MOVIE
Podcast episode#401No. 412 overall
Movie year19851980s release
Tomatometer90%No. 34 of 128 tracked
Metacritic89View score
Roger Ebert4/4Original star rating
State of the raceHanks led by 433–29 · 0 ties

FROM THE CONVERSATION

What they said about the movie

Bill and Sean treat After Hours as a cult-classic New York nightmare and a key Scorsese hinge point: a fast, paranoid, funny movie that helped set up Goodfellas and marked Scorsese's stylistic rejuvenation after a difficult early-80s stretch.
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WHY IT WORKS

What made it rewatchable

  1. 01The movie's relentless night-into-morning escalation makes it a tense but riveting experience. About 8 min
  2. 02Scorsese's rapid camera moves, edits, and visual flourishes make it a showcase for his style. About 16 min
  3. 03It captures a very specific, romanticized and dangerous version of 1980s New York nightlife. Opening minutes
  4. 04The movie works as a dark screwball/paranoia comedy with black-comic set pieces. About 8 min

WHAT DID NOT WORK

Their main criticisms

  1. minorThe ending was reportedly considered problematic and had to be assembled quickly, though Bill thinks it works well. About 40 min
  2. minorThe movie is stressful enough that it is not always an easy or pleasant watch. About 8 min
  3. minorPauline Kael's review is cited as badly missing the movie's point. About 16 min

SCENES THEY KEPT COMING BACK TO

Standout moments

Favorite

Diner meet-cute with Rosanna Arquette

The opening diner encounter is framed as the start of the whole nightmare and one of the film's signature setups.

About 24 min
Favorite

Second diner conversation and 'Surrender Dorothy' story

Held up as the movie's most rewatchable scene and a classic piece of weird dialogue construction.

About 40 min
positive

Fiorentino backrub / massage scene

Discussed as a funny, tension-filled scene shaped by offscreen paranoia and desire.

About 8 min
Favorite

Terminal Bar sequence

Praised as a quintessential weird downtown bar scene with great set design and character work.

About 32 min
positive

Catherine O'Hara's apartment / phone number scene

The repeated number-recall gag is called out as a great comic device.

About 40 min
mixed

Marcy's death reveal

The body reveal is played as black comedy, but Bill also says the sequence is one of the film's darkest turns.

About 40 min
positive

Final van drop-off and office return

The ending loops Paul back to his starting point and is defended as clever and satisfying.

About 40 min

WHERE THEY DISAGREED

The biggest debates

They agreed Opening minutes

Is After Hours more of a New York movie or a Scorsese movie?

Bill Simmons

Scorsese movie, because of the style and his career evolution.

Sean Fennessey

Also Scorsese movie, while acknowledging its New York time-capsule quality.

They agreed About 40 min

Does the ending work?

Bill Simmons

Yes, the throw-together ending is clever and fits the dream logic.

Sean Fennessey

Agrees the ending is memorable and effective despite its reputation.

They partly agreed About 1:04

Could Linda Fiorentino have been on The Sopranos?

Bill Simmons

Yes, she should have been used in that universe in a substantial way.

Sean Fennessey

He agrees it is an odd omission and entertains the idea.

They agreed About 1:04

What is Scorsese's best decade?

Bill Simmons

The 1980s may be better than both the 1990s and the 1970s.

Sean Fennessey

Accepts the argument after Bill runs through the filmography.

16 People discussedActors, directors, writers, and producers
very favorableMartin ScorseseBill Simmons: Praised as the force behind the movie's style, energy, and career significance; the episode treats the film as a pivotal Scorsese work. Opening minutes
favorableGriffin DunneBill Simmons: Seen as an effective lead whose real-life NYC experiences and anxious energy fit the movie; Bill also discusses him as a producer. About 8 min
very favorableRosanna ArquetteBill Simmons: Described as otherworldly, intoxicating, and one of the film's great presences. About 32 min
favorableLinda FiorentinoBill Simmons: Talked up as a scene-stealing presence with enormous star potential, though the discussion also notes her reputation for being difficult. About 32 min favorableTeri GarrBill Simmons: Praised for her flirty, clingy energy and memorable late-night bar sequence. About 32 min favorableCatherine O'HaraBill Simmons: Celebrated for a sexy, unusual role as the ice-cream truck driver and later as a future Home Alone parent. About 40 min favorableJohn HeardBill Simmons: Mentioned as a reliable, reckless presence who fits the movie's downtown world and later becomes a Sopranos fixture. About 32 min criticalPauline KaelBill Simmons: Her negative review is singled out as a major miss and an example of missing the movie's point. About 16 min favorableMichael BallhausBill Simmons: Credited with helping shape the visual language that later defines Scorsese's 80s and 90s work. About 24 min favorableThelma SchoonmakerBill Simmons: Cited as part of the editing style that gives the film its pace and signature energy. About 1:12
neutralFran LebowitzBill Simmons: Referenced as a source for observations about New York cab culture and how the city changed. About 56 min
neutralTim BurtonBill Simmons: Mentioned as the film's original intended director before Scorsese took over. About 1:20
neutralAmy RobinsonBill Simmons: Mentioned as Griffin Dunne's producing partner who helped connect the film's creative team. About 1:20
neutralDominick DunneBill Simmons: Discussed as Griffin Dunne's father and as a key writer in the true-crime world. About 1:20
neutralJoan DidionBill Simmons: Referenced as part of Griffin Dunne's prominent family background. About 1:20
neutralJohn Gregory DunneBill Simmons: Referenced as Griffin Dunne's father figure through the family discussion and author of The Studio. About 1:20
11 Conversation takesSpeakers shown only where the transcript identifies them
Bill SimmonsLoved it

After Hours as a cult classic

Calls it a movie that will always appear near the top of cult-classic lists.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The movie's New York setting

Sees it as a time capsule of pre-gentrified downtown New York, especially Soho and the Meatpacking area.

Opening minutes
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Scorsese's early-80s career slump

Argues the film was made in the context of Scorsese's professional lows and was a crucial reboot.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

The film's style

Says the style is a major reason he loves the movie and that it prefigures Goodfellas.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Rosanna Arquette's diner conversation

Treats the second diner conversation, with the 'Surrender Dorothy' talk, as the movie's most rewatchable scene.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Rosanna Arquette

Calls her otherworldly and a should-have-been bigger movie star.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Linda Fiorentino

Touts her as a major screen presence and possible Sopranos-level casting missed opportunity.

About 32 min
Bill SimmonsLoved it

Scorsese's recognizability

Says Scorsese is one of the few directors identifiable from images, editing, and music alone.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The ending

Defends the ending as clever and thematically fitting even though it has a bad reputation.

About 40 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

The Last Temptation of Christ cancellation

Treats the cancellation as heartbreaking for Scorsese but also as a productive turning point for his career.

About 16 min
Bill SimmonsLiked it

Thelma Schoonmaker

Credits her, along with Ballhaus, for the editing and momentum of Scorsese's later style.

About 1:12
4 ThemesThe larger ideas in the discussion

New York as labyrinth

The film is treated as a portrait of pre-gentrified downtown New York, where getting lost becomes existentially threatening.

Opening minutes

Scorsese's career reset

The movie is framed as a restorative project after a bruising period of failures, cancellations, and studio conflict.

About 16 min

Desire and paranoia

The plot is read as a male-anxiety movie about desire becoming danger whenever Paul gets close to women.

About 16 min

Style as authorship

The episode emphasizes Scorsese's visual and editorial fingerprints as instantly recognizable and influential.

About 16 min
24 Facts and referencesProduction notes and other movies mentioned

Production note

The movie was shot entirely at night, described as a 5-to-5 schedule.

About 8 min

Production note

Bill says the movie's budget was $4.5 million and it made $10.6 million.

About 40 min

Production note

Scorsese told Griffin Dunne not to have sex during filming so the character would seem properly desirous and paranoid.

About 48 min

Production note

The film was originally supposed to be directed by Tim Burton.

About 1:20

Production note

The movie was developed from Joseph Minion's script, written when he was 21 as a senior thesis.

About 48 min

Production note

Rosanna Arquette was in Silverado, After Hours, and Desperately Seeking Susan in the same year.

About 32 min

Production note

Linda Fiorentino later got tied up in a legal mess involving Anthony Pelicano and FBI agent Mark Racine.

About 1:20

Production note

Griffin Dunne and Amy Robinson produced several notable films before After Hours, including Baby It's You and Running on Empty.

About 1:20

Production note

The movie's Soho locations had to be patched with Chinatown, Little Italy, and Tribeca because the area was already changing.

About 1:20

Goodfellas

Used as the major follow-up that this film anticipates stylistically.

About 8 min

The Last Temptation of Christ

Discussed as the project Scorsese tried to make before After Hours and which was canceled.

About 16 min

Raging Bull

Used to illustrate Scorsese's earlier critical success and personal sense of failure.

About 16 min

King of Comedy

Cited as another commercial failure in Scorsese's early-80s slump.

About 16 min

The Color of Money

Discussed as the next film and part of Scorsese's stylistic rebound.

About 24 min

Life Lessons

Referenced as Scorsese's segment in New York Stories and another stylistic precursor.

About 24 min

The Warriors

Used as a comparison point for great late-night New York movies.

About 1:20

Taxi Driver

Referenced as a more dramatic, city-night Scorsese/New York touchstone.

About 8 min

Moonlighting

Not directly discussed; no strong reference beyond later TV comparisons. Removed.

Opening minutes · low confidence

Peggy Lee's 'Is That All There Is?'

Cited as the needle drop Bill associates with the movie's emotional and comic tone.

About 56 min

The Monkees

Referenced for the 'Last Train to Clarksville' needle drop and Terry Garr's Monkees connection.

About 56 min

Cheech and Chong

Referenced as a surprising cameo pair in the movie and as 80s comedy icons.

About 56 min

Mr. Softy

Referenced as a New York ice-cream-truck institution and a recurring cultural image.

About 40 min

Franz Kafka's Before the Law

Referenced as an influence on the doorman dialogue at Club Berlin.

About 1:12

The Simpsons?

No clear reference; omitted.

Opening minutes · low confidence
11 Running jokes and short linesRecurring bits captured from the conversation

New York month / native New Yorker debate

Bill and Sean joke about whether the show needed a native New Yorker on the episode and about the branding of New York month.

Opening minutes

Airport/city navigation and cab chaos

A long digression compares New York and LA navigation, cabs, and late-night wandering as life experiences.

Opening minutes

Pauline Kael takedown

Bill repeatedly mocks Kael's review as a bad misunderstanding of the movie.

About 16 min

Pot smoke / walking in New York bit

Bill keeps returning to annoyance about public weed smoke and city walking etiquette.

About 48 min

Stan Kubrick gag

Bill repeatedly calls Kubrick 'Stan' and riffs on a hypothetical Kubrick action movie.

About 24 min

CR/Fiorentino joke

Bill jokes about needing to hose Chris Ryan down because of Linda Fiorentino.

About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“fuck you Pauline”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“Surrender Dorothy”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“baby coke daddy”
About 32 min

Bill Simmons

“the movie just gets nuts”
About 40 min

Bill Simmons

“throw your life away hall of famer”
About 1:04

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UNITED STATES

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ON THE MIC

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Bill Simmons headshotBill Simmons125 tracked appearances · 56 H / 64 C / 5 ties
Sean Fennessey headshotSean Fennessey35 tracked appearances · 15 H / 17 C / 3 ties

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